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by Tattooedman » Fri May 04, 2012 12:26 pm
Woodclaw wrote:Tattooedman wrote:I was debating about expanding the RtP builds to include PL 8/120 pp, since that's a PL used a fair amount but I don't have any specific ideas on what characters to do yet.
Well I worked on a PL8 Daredevil and on a PL8 version of the Heroes for Hire. Otherwise PL8 might be anexcellent opportunity for some sidekick time.
by Tattooedman » Fri May 04, 2012 12:28 pm
I realize that the second Ray is a bit of an obscure character but he fits into the role of energy controller so well I just couldn't help myself. All of his powers are connected to his ability to manipulate light energy in some way, shape or form. Plus it's all wrapped up into a Dynamic Array or is Linked to it, so if the Array is Nullified all of his powers are gone. But he can blast with the best of them having a wide range of combat choices thanks to his having a shapeable area blast and a penetrating blast as well and he packs a decent punch with them too, normally using them at rank 12 and sacrificing a bit of accuracy for being able to hit hard. Then with his hard light force field and Ray is pretty well covered defensively, again giving up a bit of defense to be able to resist the majority of normal troubles villains can dump on him. Add in to all of that his other light based powers (invisibility, hard light constructs [simple ones mind you], & the dazzle) and Ray is pretty well rounded for fighting. The big thing to watch out for is Ray's Dynamic Array. You have to keep track of how many ranks you're parting out to which powers and it can be easy to get confused as to what rank attack you're using at the moment during a fight. Also the GM needs to be clear about how the Array is being divided up on the attack powers so he knows how to where the DC for the various saves should be, otherwise it's pretty straight forward.by Tattooedman » Sat May 05, 2012 11:36 am
Psychics can be a handful for a new player, or GM for that matter. Many of their ‘standard powers’ are considered to be a bit problematic in one way or another. The always popular Mind Control lets them deal with most mooks & minions no trouble and plus they can learn a bit about what the bad guy’s big plan possibly and many of their other powers don’t require a dice roll to hit, just a Save of some kind. Still the Psychic is a popular character, so much so that the archetype is considered to be one of the ‘core characters’ every group should have. Pick a team and 9 out of 10 times they’ve got at least one psychic among them if not two (as like Mystics, the Psychic can be somewhat specialized in their power focus from time to time). Thanks to their mental abilities, the Psychic can be anything from the big blaster (with T.K. blasts), the team brick (with a T.K. force field and touch range T.K.), a sneak (with an illusion that hides them from sight) to a straight up standard mentalist with the whole grab-bag of usual powers (mind reading, mental communication, mind control, & mental blasts). The trick is to be well versed in what rolls the psychic’s targets will have to make their saves against, since most psychics can attack other saves besides Will, and how much information the GM wants the psychic to learn from other‘s minds (if the player goes that route with the character).by Arkrite » Sat May 05, 2012 11:40 am
by ClassDunce » Sat May 05, 2012 1:15 pm
Arkrite wrote:Other tricks to playing a psychic: Try not to forget your character is psychic and can read minds.
Boy was that embarressing! ;~)
by Gilliam » Sun May 06, 2012 1:41 am
by Tattooedman » Sun May 06, 2012 7:28 am
Gilliam wrote:Nice choice for Saturn Girl as the psychic. I like that you gave her a few options in combat as well. Did you mean to leave her undercap for toughness?
by Tattooedman » Sun May 06, 2012 8:43 am
First allow me to say thanks to both Thorpacolypse & LEGEND for coming up with some great spell names that I ‘borrowed’ for this build. I’d also like to point out that I do find it amusing that within a 3 day span of time there have been 3 different builds of Dr. Strange posted. Woodclaw has already covered all the bases on what a GM and a Player needs to be familiar with and watch out for when it comes to playing a Mystical/Magic using hero, so I won’t make folks re-read my version of it. But I do want to point out something about the Luck 4 (Spell Improvisation) included in the build. Basically it's from the Book of Magic where it talks about breaking down all the possible uses for the Luck feat and making the player define what the rank of Luck is specifically for and it can only be used for that purpose. In this case (Spell Improvisation) it means that Dr. Strange can come up with spells on the fly as he might need them, buying off the Fatigue that would come from Power Stunting an alternate spell efftect from his array. Dr. Strange shows that a player can invest in some unique devices to spice up the selection of spells and abilities the mystic hero can have thanks to the Magic power, but remember that if the GM wants he/she can strip you of them in a few different ways (course you’ll end up with an HP for it more than likely, but still…) so you might not want to get too creative with it.by Woodclaw » Sun May 06, 2012 9:31 am
Tattooedman wrote:Gilliam wrote:Nice choice for Saturn Girl as the psychic. I like that you gave her a few options in combat as well. Did you mean to leave her undercap for toughness?
Thanks.
Since Woodclaw and I are both doing the RtP builds he was kind enough to share with me the list of characters he planned on doing builds of so I've tried to steer clear of them. I'd originally planned on doing Jean Grey but she was on Woodclaw's list, so I decided to pull someone from DC and came up with Saturn Girl instead.
by catsi563 » Sun May 06, 2012 11:37 am
by Tattooedman » Sun May 06, 2012 12:01 pm
Woodclaw wrote:Tattooedman wrote:Thanks.
Since Woodclaw and I are both doing the RtP builds he was kind enough to share with me the list of characters he planned on doing builds of so I've tried to steer clear of them. I'd originally planned on doing Jean Grey but she was on Woodclaw's list, so I decided to pull someone from DC and came up with Saturn Girl instead.
To be honest I'm feeling very stupid to include Jean in my list. I'm woorking on the build right now and it's really hard to fit her in a playable ration without screing something up.
catsi563 wrote:Awesome work TM as always
by Tattooedman » Sun May 06, 2012 12:07 pm
Etrigan is definitely an Iron Age character in my mind, but if handled well he doesn’t have to be and can be a very interesting character overall. But enough about that for now, on to the build itself. Basically Etrigan is something of a Paragon, able to weather attacks though he only has a +10 Toughness (and 8 of it Impervious lets him not have to worry about most mundane attacks) it’s his Regeneration that lets him pull through a fight most of the time. Then he can either mix things up in melee, trusting in his strength & claws to do damage or he can breathe his Demon’s Fire at an opponent instead. A good option would be to use Demon’s Fire first to soften up a target then surge to attack in melee (just my line of thought here). A player should consider using All-Out Attack & Power Attack for the majority of fights, with Etrigan’s Regeneration he’ll recover fairly quick once the fighting is all done. On top of that Etrigan can power stunt magical-like abilities from his Demon’s Fire to support his skill as a spell caster or use his Ritualist feat as well. He’s a character that can be pulled out when the player group needs someone familiar with the various regions of Hell or to figure out why the bad guys are interested in some seemingly random item that turns out to be tied to a major demon releasing ritual. The hardest thing to play about Etrigan is his habit of speaking in rhyme all the time and I’ve seen a few times when GMs simply say that Jason Blood is exerting more influence over Etrigan than usual to keep him easier to deal with in this manner. But in my opinion if a player manages to pull it off and stay that deep in character then they need an HP or two for all their work.by Tattooedman » Sun May 06, 2012 12:10 pm
Let me ask the GMs out there a question; have you ever had that one player bring you a character that had a set of odd powers cobbled together? Well that’s pretty much how I see Zauriel built as a PL 10. He’s got wings for flying, a flaming sword to hit foes with, a sometimes used sonic scream-like attack, can detect good/evil in those around him, speak & understand any language and isn’t worried about most human frailties. That’s pretty much an odd assortment of powers really that aren‘t all that useful too often aside from the obvious few. But a couple of his feats let him be really helpful to his team, with a few ranks in Inspire and Teamwork Zauriel can help them pick up their slack without too much trouble. Otherwise Zauriel is pretty much a melee fighter with some options to him that aren’t all too unusual for a character to have. Playing Zauriel is more about making the most of his holy descriptor and his magical knowledge when it counts.by Woodclaw » Sun May 06, 2012 1:19 pm
Tattooedman wrote:Woodclaw wrote:To be honest I'm feeling very stupid to include Jean in my list. I'm woorking on the build right now and it's really hard to fit her in a playable ration without screing something up.
I think the trick would be to build Jean as a straight up psychic without anything from the Phoenix Force included, that would make it much easier in my mind.
by Tattooedman » Sun May 06, 2012 1:42 pm
Woodclaw wrote:Tattooedman wrote:Woodclaw wrote:To be honest I'm feeling very stupid to include Jean in my list. I'm woorking on the build right now and it's really hard to fit her in a playable ration without screing something up.
I think the trick would be to build Jean as a straight up psychic without anything from the Phoenix Force included, that would make it much easier in my mind.
Well I did that and I'm still not 100% satisfied with the result. Psionics can be as bad as magicians sometimes.
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