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Re: Mr. O Presents: Venus the Invader (UD), Venus the Witch (UD)

Postby MorningKnight » Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:17 pm

I want to see Venus the Witch and Miss Rapture mix it up.

*pulls tarp down to conceal giant bowl of chocolate pudding.*
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Re: Mr. O Presents: Venus the Invader (UD), Venus the Witch (UD)

Postby MisterO » Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:55 pm

MorningKnight wrote:I want to see Venus the Witch and Miss Rapture mix it up.

*pulls tarp down to conceal giant bowl of chocolate pudding.*


Yes I think that Venus's (sp?) modern incarnation (Coming Soon!) would give Miss Rapture a run for her money.

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Re: Mr. O Presents: Venus the Invader (UD), Venus the Witch (UD)

Postby Woodclaw » Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:22 pm

Another great work on this new version of Venus, It hink she is one of the most impressive social powerhouse I've ever seen (matter of fact I haven't got the knack with the new attractiveness options from Me&Ma)
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Re: Mr. O Presents: Venus the Invader (UD), Venus the Witch (UD)

Postby MisterO » Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:21 pm

Woodclaw wrote:Another great work on this new version of Venus, It hink she is one of the most impressive social powerhouse I've ever seen (matter of fact I haven't got the knack with the new attractiveness options from Me&Ma)


Thanks Woodclaw! I only really learned about these feats myself when I updated HeroLab! :lol:
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Re: Mr. O Presents: Venus the Invader (UD), Venus the Witch (UD)

Postby MisterO » Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:22 pm

Venus the Queen of Space
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Abilities: Strength 10 (+0), Dexterity 10 (+0), Constitution 10 (+0), Intelligence 12 (+1), Wisdom 10 (+0), Charisma 16 (+3)

Saves: Toughness +0, Fortitude +3, Reflex +5, Will +6

Skills: Bluff 6 (+9), Diplomacy 5 (+8), Gather Information 3 (+6), Intimidate 3 (+6), Knowledge (physical sciences, technology) 5 (+6), Perform (oratory) 5 (+8)

Feats: All-Out Attack, Attractive, Dodge Focus 2, Equipment 8, Improved Initiative, Improved Throw, Improved Trip, Inspire, Lionheart, Luck 2, Perfect Timing, Power Attack, Rousing Speech (Perform [oratory]), Stunning Attack, Well-Known 2

Powers:
Features (hair control: able to alter the color, thickness and texture of her hair)
Flight 1 (Flaws: Levitate -1)
Telekinesis 6 (Extras: Damaging +1; Flaws: Tiring -1)
Alternate Power: Mind Reading 6

Equipment: Blaster Pistol, Vehicle: Space Shuttle

Combat: Attack +6 (Grapple +6), Damage +0 unarmed, +6 telekinesis, +5 blaster, Defense +8 (Flat-footed +3), Knockback +0, Initiative +4

Totals: Abilities 8 + Skills 8 (32 ranks) + Feats 25 + Powers 15 + Combat 24 + Saves 14 + Drawbacks 0 = 94

Venus the Queen of Space
Lydia Lane, Carol Williams

In December of 1984 Rob Carter was approached by Fusillade director Richard “Dick” Cobb. Cobb wanted to make a new Venus film with a script written by Carter and starring Lydia Lane. Rob Carter finished the script in a week and filming began less than two and a half days after that.

Rob Carter would come to regret agreeing to Cobb so quickly.

Cobb made changes to the script daily to suit his needs which also changed frequently. One member of the cast became fed up with Cobb's mercurial directing style and quit the production a quarter of the way through. This was problematic as he was one of the stars and was playing the film's villain, Sergei Marakov. When the actor, Dan Blanc, left his stunt double, Lloyd Bergen, stepped in and Dan's scenes were refilmed with Lloyd in his place, some times very obviously.

Lydia Lane remembers that one day they were filming a scene when Cobb stopped it in the middle of shooting and completely changed it. Then as they were filming that version of the scene he again changed it until finally they came full circle and they filmed the scene the way it was originally planned.

Cobb's producers were troubled by the dailies they were being shown and the reports from the crew of Cobb's instability. It was soon revealed that Cobb was abusing prescription medication on set and was using a portion of the film's budget to feed his addiction. Cobb was fired and replaced with another Fusillade director, Kevin Jason.

Kevin Jason was tasked with finishing the film as quickly and as cheaply as possible. Which he did with aplomb. He would only do one take for every scene, he auctioned off props and pieces of the set to other Fusillade productions and laid off three members of the cast. The film finally, and very briefly, arrived to theaters with a resounding flop and was quickly shuffled off to home video.

Due to their poor experiences with Fusillade neither Lydia Lane nor Rob Carter would return for the next film, Venus versus Saturn. Venus versus Saturn would see Kevin Jason back in the director's chair and with Carol Williams taking over for Lydia Lane.

These two films are perhaps the most reviled of all the films in the series.

In Venus (Reborn), Venus is almost incidental to the plot as two others, Agents Y and X, take on the machinations of Sergei Markov the diabolical Soviet cyborg. It is only in the film's climax that Sergei and Venus come into conflict. It is a spectacle of shoddy special effects and bad acting on poor Lloyd Bergen's part as Venus uses her telekinetic powers to beat the Russian to death with a chair. In Venus versus Saturn, Carol Williams, and her co-stars Sandra Keir and Keri Quartermain, use their striking assets to pad out the running time of the film. The plot, such as it is, is about an evil group of disembodied brains from Saturn attempting to take over the Earth using their mind controlled minions.

Venus versus Saturn is perhaps the most reviled movie in the whole series. Fans were drearily disappointed that the final film adventure of Venus ended on such a terrible note. In the nineties there were rumors of a revival that never came to fruition. Not until the new millennium would Venus return to the big screen and in a big way.
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Re: Mr. O Presents: Venus the Witch, Venus the Queen of Space

Postby MorningKnight » Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:55 pm

I feel that with a better director and writer, Lydia Lane could easily have become the shot in the arm that the Venus series required.

Lydia not only has the beauty necessary to be Venus, but she brought a sultry intensity to the role.

What a damned shame.

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Re: Mr. O Presents: Venus the Witch, Venus the Queen of Space

Postby MisterO » Fri Jan 15, 2010 6:00 pm

MorningKnight wrote:I feel that with a better director and writer, Lydia Lane could easily have become the shot in the arm that the Venus series required.

Lydia not only has the beauty necessary to be Venus, but she brought a sultry intensity to the role.

What a damned shame.

(Sybil Danning, for the win!)


It would have been good to keep her on for at least one more film. Then again she had played the character seven times by this point.

Coming soon (hopefully) the writeup for the latest incarnation of Venus, played by Zenia Crux.

(Here's a little syllogism that has helped me keep everything straight while writing this:
Venus=James Bond
Lydia Lane=Sean Connery
Pauline Curtis & Jenny Qi=George Lazenby or Roger Moore
Venus versus Saturn=Moonraker/Die Another Day.

Thanks for the comments MK!)
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Re: Mr. O Presents: Venus the Witch, Venus the Queen of Space

Postby Libra » Sat Jan 16, 2010 3:17 pm

I might just have to look this series up - I must confess that I've never actually heard of it. :oops:

Keep up the good work in any case Mr O. :D
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Re: Mr. O Presents: Venus the Witch, Venus the Queen of Space

Postby MorningKnight » Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:13 pm

Libra wrote:I might just have to look this series up - I must confess that I've never actually heard of it. :oops:

Keep up the good work in any case Mr O. :D


That is because it's a made up series. The "conceit" of this build is the creation of a metafictional character who goes through different incarnations, like James Bond, Batman, even Sherlock Holmes.

He thought it would be fun for commenters to have their own judgements of the Venus movies as if these were writeups of a real character.
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Re: Mr. O Presents: Venus the Witch, Venus the Queen of Space

Postby dwellerofthedeep » Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:30 am

It's a very interesting concept, and the builds aren't half bad either!
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Re: Mr. O Presents: Venus the Witch, Venus the Queen of Space

Postby MisterO » Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:18 pm

I have an intent of making Hero/Villain pairs of Marvel/DC/Independent as soon as I finish Venus. I want to writeup her Modern/Rebooted incarnation and enemies from her various eras, one from each.

I also want to writeup a few Golden Age heroes. I'm planning to use the archetypes from Golden Age and customize them to fit the character. Including one of my own creation.

To give you an idea of what my hero is going to be like here are some choice quotes from "Dark Mystery Comics"

Professor Arnold Nelson, doctor of anthropology and archeology at Cornucopia City University, is secretly the Enigmatic Enemy of Evil, Captain Mystery! Given strange, mysterious powers by the ancient gods of a lost city in the Amazon he fights against the endless foes of justice and freedom!

Billy Chalmers is the nephew of Jean Curtis (Captain Mystery's stalwart sweetheart!) and a great friend to the shadowy sentinel of civility!

Doctor Bright, the smartest man whoever lived!

Chief of Police O'Brian, Captain Mystery's connection to the long-arm of the law!


(Billy and Captain Mystery are cornered in a high-rise building by a gang of crooks. The gang is advancing upon the two with weapons drawn.)
Billy: Oh no Cap! We're trapped!
Captain Mystery: Actually Billy the opposite is true! With my power over spatial geometry I send this bunch packing!
(The cracks in the hardwood floors open to wide chasms that swallow up all of the gang.)
Billy: Wow Cap! That was amazing! But where did the gang go?
Captain Mystery: Sorry Billy but that will have to remain...a mystery!

(Captain Mystery is trapped in a bank vault, surrounded by thugs armed with acetaline torches, preparing to burn him alive.)
Gang Leader: Any last words do-gooder?
Captain: Yes...to my readers!
Gang Leader: Wha?
Captain: [grabs the edge of the panel] As this is one of my most powerful abilities, so powerful it can even effect YOU, I'll spare you the startling details!
[Pulls down on panel to show an advertisement for Wacky Cola. The next panel shows the gang has gone insane.]
Leader: No! NO! Mommy! MOMMY!!
Thug 1: [turning the torch upon himself.]
Thug 2: Eman yht eb dewollah, nevaeh ni tra ohw rehtaf ruo....
Captain: What did I do to them you ask? Well that will have to remain...a mystery!

(At the Circus of Madness a giant elephant tramples over Captain Mystery before Jean's eyes)
Jean: Oh no! SOB He's dead! Dead! This terrible! Awful!
Captain Mystery: Dry your eyes dear. We still have work to do!
Jean: What?! Cap! Oh Cap, you're alive! But how? I saw that awful thing stamp you to death!
Captain Mystery: Never mind that now Jean! The Ring Mistress is getting away!
Jean: But Cap how did...?
Captain Mystery: Don't ask me about these things Jean! Now come on!

Frightened Bank President: There's no use! I'll be ruined if this gets out! I might as well end it now! [Pulls out pistol]
Captain Mystery: Stop! We need those bullets for the war! Now about that blackmailer!
Pres.: GASP! Captain Mystery! How did you know I was in trouble?
Captain Mystery: I learned it from the frightening dream you had last night
Pres.: From my dream? But how?
Captain Mystery: I know what everyone dreams.

[Jean and Captain Mystery are having dinner within his secret home, the Sanctum.]
Jean: So this is the Sanctum! OoOoh! I feel dizzy!
Captain Mystery: Yes I know. Others I have brought here have had the same reaction.
Jean: Why is that Cap?
Captain Mystery: Because Jean the Sanctum has no right-angles!
Jean: Why does it have no right angles?
Captain Mystery: Because the place my Sanctum lies within does not permit them.

Billy: Come on Cap! Please tell me how you beat Doctor Malice's monster! The door slammed closed before I could see what you did!
Captain Mystery: I don't think you want to know Billy. Some things must remain mysteries!
Billy: Oh please Cap! I won't ask you about anything ever again!
Captain Mystery: Alright Billy I'll tell you. [Whispers into Billy's ear.]
Billy: [Starts crying]
Captain Mystery: I told you. You didn't want to know!
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Re: Mr. O Presents: Venus the Witch, Venus the Queen of Space

Postby MorningKnight » Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:46 pm

Ah yes, the dark, twisted side of Doctor Occult/Doctor Fate/the Trenchcoat brigade.
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Re: Mr. O Presents: Venus the Witch, Venus the Queen of Space

Postby MisterO » Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:30 pm

Modern Venus
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Power Level 10

Abilities: Strength 14 (+2), Dexterity 18 (+4), Constitution 18 (+4), Intelligence 14 (+2), Wisdom 14 (+2), Charisma 14 (+2)

Saves: Toughness +7, Fortitude +6, Reflex +8, Will +8

Skills: Acrobatics 10 (+14), Bluff 4 (+6), Concentration 6 (+8), Craft (electronic, mechanical) 6 (+8), Diplomacy 4 (+6), Disable Device 8 (+10), Escape Artist 4 (+8), Intimidate 8 (+10), Knowledge (technology) 8 (+10), Notice 10 (+12), Search 4 (+6), Sense Motive 6 (+8), Stealth 6 (+10)

Feats: Accurate Attack, Acrobatic Bluff, All-Out Attack, Attack Specialization (Tendril Strike), Benefit (Cypher), Blind-Fight, Chokehold, Defensive Attack, Dodge Focus 2, Evasion, Improved Defense, Improved Initiative, Improved Ranged Disarm, Improved Trip, Ninja Run, Power Attack, Prone Fighting, Sweeping Strike

Powers:
Mind Reading 12 (Flaws: Limited to Mind Probe -1, Range [touch] -2)
Morph 5 (alien form, +25 Disguise)
Alternate Power: Additional Limbs 5 ( 25 extra limbs; +5 to Grapple when not using Imp. Grapple, Feats: Improved Grapple)
Alternate Power: Blending 1 (Total concealment from normal vision)
Protection 3
Snare 10 (Flaws: Feedback -1; Power Feats: Tether [1000 ft.])
Alternate Power: Blast 5 (Power Feats: Mighty 1)
Alternate Power: Damage 5 (Extras: General Burst Area [25 ft. radius] +1)
Alternate Power: Elongation 5
Alternate Power: Strike 8 (Alternate; DC 25; Mighty)
Alternate Power: Super-Strength 5 (heavy load: 2.8 tons)
Speed 1 (Speed: 10 mph, 88 ft./rnd)
Alternate Power: Leaping 1 (Jumping distance: x2)
Super-Movement 3 (swinging, wall-crawling 2 [full speed])
Super-Senses 5 (infravision, tracking ultravision 2 [full speed], uncanny dodge [mental])

Combat: Attack +8 (Tendril Strike +10, Grapple +10), Damage +2 unarmed, +5 tendril whip, +5 tendril burst, +10 tendril strike, Defense +12 (Flat-footed +5), Knockback -3, Initiative +8

Totals: Abilities 32 + Skills 23 (90 ranks) + Feats 19 + Powers 43 + Combat 36 + Saves 12 + Drawbacks 0 = 165

Background Article
Since I'm in the mood right now I'm just gonna put up the Raw Stats for the latest incarnation of the Lethal Lovely Venus. In this incarnation she dropped much of her social skill in favor of combat monstrosity. This was more or less the writer/director Martin Simeon's intention. He wanted to show her as an outsider that had trouble with human interation. He also rather (in)famously stated that he disliked the Eruopean Venus movies, saying that Venus was a scienceficiton heroine, not a "lesbian new-age witch". With new director Karl Sivek at the helm of the latest Venus film he intends to make this closer to the FantaCine cycle of films. It is unknown at this time if Zenia Crux will return to star.

(Sorry that this is so rough. I'm just trying to get this thing out so I can move on to other projects. That's Rhona Mitra up there by the way, standing in for Zenia Crux.)
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Re: Mr. O Presents: Venus the Queen of Space, Modern Venus

Postby MorningKnight » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:05 pm

I like this variant of Venus, but then, I love shapeshifter types who use their powers creatively.

That Power Suite based off of her morphic abilities is truly impressive.
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Re: Mr. O Presents: Venus the Queen of Space, Modern Venus

Postby JoshuaDunlow » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:38 pm

The only thing that i am concerned with, is this part.

Morph 5 (alien form, +25 Disguise)
Alternate Power: Additional Limbs 5 ( 25 extra limbs; +5 to Grapple when not using Imp. Grapple, Feats: Improved Grapple)
Alternate Power: Blending 1 (Total concealment from normal vision)


It seems to me that you might want to make it Dynamic.. But at the same i don't know the extent of what you are trying to do with this. I am assuming she looks human till she takes an Alien Form? And she has to drop her Alien form to use her additional limbs or her blending?
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