J-Mart PC: Iceman, Captain Marvel (Carol)

[Arthur Eld]

That's a nice Casshern build, Thorp. Hopefully stats for Friender will be along eventually. Robot-dogs are just cool.

I will say I think you low-balled Casshern's PL (I also felt that way about your Afro Samurai build), but I can see where you're coming from in trying to make them PL 10, 150 points.

[Thorpacolypse]

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I never knew my father. I was raised...to be someone different than him. And now I'm supposed to be him. I never asked for that, but when the opportunity found me...I was curious. I wanted to know what it was like. To have people look at me and see...my father. - Daken

DAKEN
PL: 10 (150 pts) - OPL: 10 ; DPL: 10

ABILITIES: STRENGTH 4, STAMINA 7, AGILITY 5, DEXTERITY 2, FIGHTING 10, INTELLECT 2, AWARENESS 3, PRESENCE 1

SKILLS: Acrobatics 2 (+7), Athletics 4 (+8), Deception 8 (+9), Expertise [Streetwise] 3 (+5), Insight (+3), Intimidation 8 (+9), Investigation (+2), Perception 7 (+10), Persuasion (+1), Sleight of Hand (+2), Stealth 6 (+11), Technology (+2), Treatment (+2), Vehicles (+2)

ADVANTAGES: All-Out Attack, Close Attack (3), Improved Critical (1) (Claws 2), Improved Initiative (1), Jack-of-all-Trades, Languages (1) (English, Base: Japanese), Power Attack, Takedown (1)

ENHANCED ADVANTAGES: Diehard, Great Endurance

POWERS:
Healing Factor: Immunity 2 (Aging, Disease [Limited], Poisons [Limited]), Enhanced Advantages 2 (see Advantages), Regeneration 8 (2/every three rounds); 12 pts
Enhanced Senses: Senses 7 (Normal Sight [Extended], Normal Hearing [Extended]; Scent [Extended, Acute, Tracking], Low-Light Vision); 7 pts
Bone Claws: Strength Based Damage 3; 3 pts
Pheromones: 12 pt array; 14 pts
Emotion Control: Perception Ranged Affliction 6 (Resisted by Will; 1st: Dazed, 2nd: Compelled, Extras: Cumulative, Flaw: Sense Dependent [Scent], Limited to two degrees); 12 pts
Scent Hiding: Concealment 2 (All Olfactory Senses); 1 pt
Displacement: Perception Ranged Affliction 6 (Resisted by Will; 1st: Vulnerable, 2nd: Defenseless, Flaw: Sense Dependent [Scent], Limited to two degrees); 1 pt

EQUIPMENT:
NONE

OFFENSE:
Initiative +9
Close Attack +13 [Unarmed +4; Claws +7, Critical 19-20]
Ranged Attack +2

DEFENSES:
Dodge +11 [DC21] Parry +13 [DC23]
Toughness +7, Fortitude +8, Will +10

COMPLICATIONS:
Enemy: Wolverine, Cyber
Prejudice: Mutant
Temper: Although at quite the same frequency as his dad, he can lose his temper from time to time and go into a berserker rage
Vulnerable: He is vulnerable to the Muramasa blade and items made from it that cancel out his healing factor and can kill him

Abilities 68 + Skills 19 (38 ranks) + Advantages 13 + Powers 33 + Defenses 17 = 150 / 150

Comments: Daken as a PC. Since I was working on him anyway, I figured I might as well get all the versions of him done that I wanted to do. So we have him as a PC, one for DCA and on my other thread (which might get consolidated here in the near future because I am lazy) I have him tweaked a bit for my personal setting.

[Thorpacolypse]

That's a nice Casshern build, Thorp. Hopefully stats for Friender will be along eventually. Robot-dogs are just cool.

I will say I think you low-balled Casshern's PL (I also felt that way about your Afro Samurai build), but I can see where you're coming from in trying to make them PL 10, 150 points.

I'll build Friender when I build a more NPC-ish Casshern at my main thread. I'm keeping this one for "pure" PCs, so I too, certainly agree that Afro and Casshern should be higher level, but I'm trying to go PL10/150 pts pretty much all the time here.

[ClassDunce]

I'm a Daken fan, maybe the only one on this board lol, and that's a pretty awesome PC Daken. I think the skills are a little low but for a PC they would have to be.

[Thorpacolypse]

I'm a Daken fan, maybe the only one on this board lol, and that's a pretty awesome PC Daken. I think the skills are a little low but for a PC they would have to be.

You know, I meant to add Beginner's Luck in for him, since he has shown himself to be a pretty good skill monkey and like you said, I had to keep his skills low in favor of his fighting ability with the limited points. I'll have to get that worked in.

[Thorpacolypse]

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That's why I am a leader. The blind leading the blind, maybe...but a leader nonetheless. A leader because I'm prepared to take the fall, and because I'm prepared to make the hard decisions. Such as the one you made, Mom, that day you pushed Alex and I out into the sky with a single parachute between us. Because a leader knows, it's not so hard to die for your people. It's hard to order your people to die for you. And leading with certainty into an uncertain future doesn't require sight. It requires vision. It requires holding on. And no matter what happens, never letting go. - Cyclops

CYCLOPS
PL: 10 (150 pts) - OPL: 10 ; DPL: 10

ABILITIES: STRENGTH 2, STAMINA 4, AGILITY 3, DEXTERITY 3, FIGHTING 8, INTELLECT 2, AWARENESS 4, PRESENCE 4

SKILLS: Acrobatics 4 (+7), Athletics 3 (+5), Close Combat [Unarmed] 2 (+10), Deception 3 (+7), Expertise [Tactics] 11 (+13), Insight (+4), Intimidation 1 (+5), Investigation 3 (+5), Perception 3 (+7), Persuasion 6 (+10), Ranged Combat [Blast] 5 (+8), Stealth (+3), Vehicles 7 (+10)

ADVANTAGES: Defensive Roll (1), Improved Initiative (1), Inspire (3), Leadership, Teamwork

POWERS:
Complex Mathematics: Quickness 3 (Flaw: Mental only, Limited [Complex mathematics only]); 1 pt
Summers Brother: Immunity 2 (Own powers, Havok's powers); 2 pts
Optic Blasts: 28 pt array; 31 pts
Concentrated Blast: Ranged Damage 12, Enhanced Advantages 3 (All Out Attack, Power Attack, Precise Attack [Ranged, Cover; Ranged Concealment]); 28 pts
Wide Area Blast: Cone Area Damage 10 (Extra: Area Cone 2 [60 ft]); 1 pt
Line Area Blast: Line Area Damage 10 (Extra: Line Area 2 [60 ft]); 1 pt
Multi-Blast: Ranged Damage 8 (Extra: Multiattack), Enhanced Advantages 3 (All Out Attack, Power Attack, Precise Attack [Ranged, Cover; Ranged Concealment]); 1 pt

EQUIPMENT:
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X-Men Costume: Commlink (Senses 1 [Communication Link, Radio; X-Men), Protection 2, Immunity 2 (Environmental Cold, Environmental Heat); 5ep

OFFENSE:
Initiative +7
Close Attack +8
Unarmed +10 [Unarmed +2]
Ranged Attack +3
Optic Blast +8 [Optic Blasts +12; Multi-Blast +8, Multiattack]
Special Attack [Wide Blast +10, Area Cone; Blast Line +10, Area Line]

DEFENSES:
Dodge +13 [DC23] Parry +11 [DC21]
Toughness +7, Fortitude +8, Will +12

COMPLICATIONS:
Enemy: Several, but Vulcan and Mister Sinister are pretty personal
Power Loss: Prolonged absence from sunlight causes his powers to fade
Prejudice: Mutant
Relationships: Emma Frost, his brother Havok, his father Corsair, and the memory of Jean Grey
Responsibility: To lead the X-Men and sometimes, all of mutantkind
Rivalry: He and Wolverine had a long running rivalry for the affections of Jean Grey and even though she is gone, there are still some unresolved issues between them
Uncontrolled Optic Blasts: Without his visor, Scott's optic blasts would be uncontrollable and always on. He also only see's things through a red tint

Abilities 60 + Skills 24 (48 ranks) + Advantages 7 + Powers 34 + Defenses 25 = 150 / 150

Comments: Cyclops as a PC. I'd just like to take this opportunity to say I hate, and I mean HATE the way they made Cyclops into the villain in AvX. I knew they would make somebody the heavy, like they did Iron Man in Civil War, but geez, they've really taken him down a path that will be hard to bring him out of. But maybe that's the whole reason Bendis did what he did it, to give himself a challenge in bringing him back to the light later on. Maybe they are setting him to be the new Magneto since Mags has been a pretty good reformed villain as of late.

Who knows? All I know is that I don't like it.

[Batgirl III]

In the olden days, when Marvel and DC would crossover, several writers would have the Justice League speculate about how odd it was that the people of Earth-616 didn't seem to like their superheroes very much. These days, I rather suspect that the staff at Marvel doesn't seem to like their superheroes very much...

There is a famous phrase about the Iron Age that goes, "1993 was the year Superman died, and Venom got his own series." But Superman came back a few months latter, and `93's Venom now seems downright happy-go-lucky. I mean, really Marvel, you've gotten to the point where establishing Logan as the headmaster of a school for young heroes makes sense as the heroic and hopeful book!?

I don't want to get all "Marvel vs. DC," and Kirby knows that DC isn't immune to moments of "WTF!?" -- *cough*Cry for Justice*cough* -- but, man, Marvel has gotten waaay to dark for my tatstes.

[Earth-Two_Kenn]

They've both gotten to dark for my tastes. My DC stack hasn't been as small as it is right now since 1981.

[JoshuaDunlow]

Nice stuff Thorp. I'm always amazed, when someone can take a character and make them a playable PL 10.

I started reading comics from 89 all the way to 97-98. And I pretty much stopped reading Marvel after that point. So many of the builds I do, are the characterizations from the 90's . The last story Arc i read, was right after the whole thing with the T virus or what ever it was. And Charles supposedly dead, but alive in the mind of a little girl? I don't know it was sorta confusing.

[ClassDunce]

Comments: Cyclops as a PC. I'd just like to take this opportunity to say I hate, and I mean HATE the way they made Cyclops into the villain in AvX. I knew they would make somebody the heavy, like they did Iron Man in Civil War, but geez, they've really taken him down a path that will be hard to bring him out of. But maybe that's the whole reason Bendis did what he did it, to give himself a challenge in bringing him back to the light later on. Maybe they are setting him to be the new Magneto since Mags has been a pretty good reformed villain as of late.

Who knows? All I know is that I don't like it.

It didn't exactly happen over night though. I mean this is the direction that Cyclops has been going for very nearly the past decade. Ever since House of M Cyclops has been getting more and more drastic in his measures. Hell he created a team of Assassins. He's made Wolverinethe heroic role model in comparison... Cyclops being the bad guy in AvX made more sense than Iron Man's turn in the Civil War.

[Thorpacolypse]

Comments: Cyclops as a PC. I'd just like to take this opportunity to say I hate, and I mean HATE the way they made Cyclops into the villain in AvX. I knew they would make somebody the heavy, like they did Iron Man in Civil War, but geez, they've really taken him down a path that will be hard to bring him out of. But maybe that's the whole reason Bendis did what he did it, to give himself a challenge in bringing him back to the light later on. Maybe they are setting him to be the new Magneto since Mags has been a pretty good reformed villain as of late.

Who knows? All I know is that I don't like it.

It didn't exactly happen over night though. I mean this is the direction that Cyclops has been going for very nearly the past decade. Ever since House of M Cyclops has been getting more and more drastic in his measures. Hell he created a team of Assassins. He's made Wolverinethe heroic role model in comparison... Cyclops being the bad guy in AvX made more sense than Iron Man's turn in the Civil War.

I certainly agree with your assessment as to what has occurred, I just don't like it. It was certainly coming all along, but I don't feel like it's the right way to go. I understand the mutants being a microcosm of race relations in the US and I like the fact that Cap and the other heroes are trying to make up for not being the mutant advocates that they should have been, but it seems counterproductive to have the leader of the re-born mutant race become a pariah and one of the most hated men in the world. I guess it's just their way of keeping the tension up.

[Woodclaw]

Comments: Cyclops as a PC. I'd just like to take this opportunity to say I hate, and I mean HATE the way they made Cyclops into the villain in AvX. I knew they would make somebody the heavy, like they did Iron Man in Civil War, but geez, they've really taken him down a path that will be hard to bring him out of. But maybe that's the whole reason Bendis did what he did it, to give himself a challenge in bringing him back to the light later on. Maybe they are setting him to be the new Magneto since Mags has been a pretty good reformed villain as of late.

Who knows? All I know is that I don't like it.

It didn't exactly happen over night though. I mean this is the direction that Cyclops has been going for very nearly the past decade. Ever since House of M Cyclops has been getting more and more drastic in his measures. Hell he created a team of Assassins. He's made Wolverinethe heroic role model in comparison... Cyclops being the bad guy in AvX made more sense than Iron Man's turn in the Civil War.

I certainly agree with your assessment as to what has occurred, I just don't like it. It was certainly coming all along, but I don't feel like it's the right way to go. I understand the mutants being a microcosm of race relations in the US and I like the fact that Cap and the other heroes are trying to make up for not being the mutant advocates that they should have been, but it seems counterproductive to have the leader of the re-born mutant race become a pariah and one of the most hated men in the world. I guess it's just their way of keeping the tension up.

I agree with Thorp, while the trnasformation of Cyke was like a progression, rather than an all of the sudden thing. I don't like any part of it. In particular I think that there's one fact: of all the mutant on Utopia, both friends and foes only two, Beast and Wolvie, actually tried to stand-up to Cyke. All the other pretty much accepted the fact that he was becoming a jerk as a natural evolution of his character, which was honestly very weird.

[Batgirl III]

Part of that, I think, is trying to cram 24,601 characters into a single comic book. There are just too many bloody X-Men, X-Women, X-Kids, and X-Pets! You cannot fit much character development or reactions into a 24-page book when you have a cast this big. (Especially if every damn book has to have nine pages of Logan!)

The greater Batman Family gets a lot of flack for having ten primary characters*, but for the most part they're seperated into different books are rarely do more than three or four of them gather. The new Wolverine and the X-Men book -- which is set on the opposite coast from Utopia -- has twenty characters on the "faculty" and several dozen students... and it's got one of the shorter cast lists!

Star Trek: The Next Generation was set on a ship with a crew of hundreds, but it had a primary cast of, what, eight? Ten? There were plenty of recurring guest stars, but the main focus was on the ensemble cast... you rotated through each in turn, a "Worf episode" this week, a "Data episode" next week. It worked. Marvel just has to cut 90% of the X-Men cast, if you ask me.

*Bruce Wayne; Dick Grayson; Tim Drake; Damian Wayne; Barbara Gordon; Cassandra Cain; Stephanine Brown; Helena Bertinelli; and Dinah Lance. That's a lot of Bat.

[Earth-Two_Kenn]

Could be worse:

Kirk Langstrom, the Earth-One Jason Todd (the likable ginger Robin), Kathy Kane (the real one), Betty Kane, Bat-Mite and Ace are all missing. And Alfred isn't running around, outside, in speedos trying to kill them.

[Woodclaw]

Part of that, I think, is trying to cram 24,601 characters into a single comic book. There are just too many bloody X-Men, X-Women, X-Kids, and X-Pets! You cannot fit much character development or reactions into a 24-page book when you have a cast this big. (Especially if every damn book has to have nine pages of Logan!)

The greater Batman Family gets a lot of flack for having ten primary characters*, but for the most part they're seperated into different books are rarely do more than three or four of them gather. The new Wolverine and the X-Men book -- which is set on the opposite coast from Utopia -- has twenty characters on the "faculty" and several dozen students... and it's got one of the shorter cast lists!

Star Trek: The Next Generation was set on a ship with a crew of hundreds, but it had a primary cast of, what, eight? Ten? There were plenty of recurring guest stars, but the main focus was on the ensemble cast... you rotated through each in turn, a "Worf episode" this week, a "Data episode" next week. It worked. Marvel just has to cut 90% of the X-Men cast, if you ask me.

*Bruce Wayne; Dick Grayson; Tim Drake; Damian Wayne; Barbara Gordon; Cassandra Cain; Stephanine Brown; Helena Bertinelli; and Dinah Lance. That's a lot of Bat.

Agreed on pretty much any point.