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Re: Batgirl III's Character Thread (Jack Harkness, Black Widow)

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Power Level 11 ( 165 PP)
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ABILITIES
Strength 4 (Lifting 5) Stamina 6 Agility 6 Dexterity 4
Fighting 8 Intellect 2 Awareness 5 Presence 5

POWERS
Super-Soldier
Immunity 2 (Disease [1], Poison [1]; F: Limited to Half Effect) [ 1 PP ]
Super Strength 1 (F: Lifting Only) Speed 1 (F: Distracting) [ 1 PP ]

Star-Spangled Shield (Array; 50 PP Base) (Extra: Feature-Indestructible [1]; Flaws: Removable [-1 per 5]) [ 41 PP Total ]
Shield Defense Immunity 80 (Bludgeoning Damage [20], Energy Damage [20], Piercing Damage [20], Slashing Damage [20]; F: Limited to Half Effect, Sustained) [ 40 PP ] Impervious Toughness 5 [ 5 PP ] Protection 3 [ 3 PP ]
Alternate Power: Shield Bash Damage 4 (Strength-based) [ 1 PP ]
Alternate Power: Shield Throw Damage 6 (E: Homing [1]; Ranged; Ricochet [2]) [ 1 PP ]

EQUIPMENT ( 20 EP Total)
"Old Fashioned" Body Armor Protection 2 (2 EP)

Utility Belt (Array) (18 EP)
C4 Explosives Damage 5 (Extras: Area-Burst; Ranged) [ 16 EP ]
Multi-Tool [ 1 EP ]
Rebreather [ 1 EP ]

ADVANTAGES
Accurate Attack, Benefit [Fame] (1), Defensive Attack, Equipment (4), Improved Critical [Unarmed] (1), Improved Defense, Inspire (2), Leadership, Power Attack, Ranged Attack (1), Takedown (1)

SKILLS
Acrobatics 2 (+8), Athletics 6 (+10), Close Combat [Shield] 2 (+10), Expertise [Artist] 2 (+4), Expertise [Soldier] 8 (+10), Insight 3 (+8), Intimidation 3 (+8), Perception 3 (+8), Persuasion 7 (+12), Ranged Combat [Shield] 2 (+7), Treatment 3 (+5), Vehicles 1 (+5)

DEFENSE
Dodge (8) Base 2
Parry: (8) Base 0
Fortitude: (8) Base 2
Toughness: (11) Base -
Will: (8) Base 3

ABILITIES [ 80 pp ] + SKILLS [ 21 pp ] + ADVANTAGES [ 15 pp ] + POWERS [ 42 pp ] + DEFENSES [ 7 pp ] = 165 PP TOTAL

:arrow: Captain America from the Marvel Cinematic Universe (Earth-199999) has far less expereince than the Cap of mainstream Earth-616, but he's still Captain America. The name of the game for Steve Rogers in a fight is "endurance," he doesn't have quite the same raw damage output of comicbook Cap, but he's incredibly hard to put down and will just keep thumping on the bad guys for as long as it takes.

Edit 10/21/12: Working through the list of errors kindly supplied by Psistrike.
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Re: Batgirl III's Character Thread (Widow, Hawkeye, Cpt America)

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Good to see you back, Batgirl! I know you had some issues with 3e, but your builds were neat and you always have some interesting commentary on them, so it's a happy day for me to have you make your return.

It's interesting to see that "Immunity" theme to Cap's shield pop up a few times recently, since most just went with the old "it's like a normal Shield with Dodge & Parry" approach before. I'm still not sure how I think about it, but it's unique, I'll give it that.

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Re: Batgirl III's Character Thread (Widow, Hawkeye, Cpt America)

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I'd love to see your take on Coulson...

(BTW, you listed Hawkeye's complication for Cap...)

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Re: Batgirl III's Character Thread (Widow, Hawkeye, Cpt America)

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Jabroniville wrote:It's interesting to see that "Immunity" theme to Cap's shield pop up a few times recently, since most just went with the old "it's like a normal Shield with Dodge & Parry" approach before. I'm still not sure how I think about it, but it's unique, I'll give it that.
It's really hard to explain the Shield's ability to shrug off everything from pistols to machine guns, a full-force blow from Mjölnir, Tony's unibeam, and so on and so forth... I'd either have to give it so many ranks of Protection that Cap would be Superman or too few ranks, and suddenly he's not Cap anymore.
Bladewind wrote:I'd love to see your take on Coulson...

(BTW, you listed Hawkeye's complication for Cap...)
Agent Coulson, Maria Hill, and Colonel Nick "B.M.F." Fury will all see write-ups as soon as I have finished the remaining Avengers. That error in Cap's write-up is quite clearly the work of Hydra... correct one typo, two more shall take its place.
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Re: Batgirl III's Character Thread (Widow, Hawkeye, Cpt America)

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Jabroniville wrote:It's interesting to see that "Immunity" theme to Cap's shield pop up a few times recently, since most just went with the old "it's like a normal Shield with Dodge & Parry" approach before. I'm still not sure how I think about it, but it's unique, I'll give it that.
It's really hard to explain the Shield's ability to shrug off everything from pistols to machine guns, a full-force blow from Mjölnir, Tony's unibeam, and so on and so forth... I'd either have to give it so many ranks of Protection that Cap would be Superman or too few ranks, and suddenly he's not Cap anymore.
I think it's appropriate, especially in a cinematic Cap build. That shot he took from Thor during that fight with Iron Man was the perfect example of it. I'm probably going to add it to my Cap build after seeing it on JSpade's version of Cap.
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Marvel Cinematic Universe
Power Level 11 ( 165 PP)
The Avengers wrote:Tony Stark: [to Loki] Let's do a head count here: your brother the demi-god; a super soldier, a living legend who kind of lives up to the legend; a man with breath-taking anger management issues; a couple of master assassins, and YOU, big fella, you've managed to piss off every single one of them. [Beat.] There's one more guy you pissed off... His name's Phil.
ABILITIES
Strength 2(14) Stamina 2 Agility 1 Dexterity 2
Fighting 3 Intellect 10 Awareness 2 Presence 4

POWERS
Iron Man Armor (Array; 80 PP Base) (Flaws: Removable [-1 per 5]) [ 64 PP Total ]
Armor Protection 13 (Extras: Impervious [8]) [ 21 PP ]
Arc Reactor Enhanced Strength 12 [ 12 PP ]
JARVIS Quickness 4 (Flaws: Limited to Mental Tasks) [ 2 PP ] Feature 1 (A.I.) [ 1 PP ]
Sealed Enviroment Immunity 10 (Life Support) [ 10 PP ]
Boot Jets Flight 9 (500/1000) (Partial Flaws: Distracting [2 Ranks], Concentration [1 Rank]) [ 15 PP ]
Repulsor Gauntlets Damage 6 (Extras: Ranged, Split [1]) [ 13 PP ]
Alternate Power: Uni-Beam Damage 6 (Extras: Ranged, Multiattack, Penetrating [2]; Flaw: Activation [Move], Tiring) [ 1 PP ]
Alternate Power: Repulsor Stabilization Feature 3 (Buy Off Partial Flaws on Flight) [ 1 PP ]

EQUIPMENT
Stark Tower - Manhattan (Headquarters) [ 24 EP ]
Size: Gargantuan (4 EP)
Toughness: 14 (4 EP)
Features: Communications (1 EP), Computer (1 EP), Fire Prevention System (1 EP), Garage (1 EP), Gym (1 EP), Hangar (1 EP), Infirmary (1 EP), Laboratory (1 EP), Library (1 EP), Living Space (1 EP), Personnel (1 EP), Power System (1 EP), Security System (DC 30, 3 EP), Workshop (1 EP)

Stark Mansion - California (Headquarters) [ 1 EP ]
Size: Large (2 EP)
Toughness: 12 (3 EP)
Features: Communications (1 EP), Computer (1 EP), Fire Prevention System (1 EP), Garage (1 EP), Grounds (Huge, 1 EP), Gym (1 EP), Infirmary (1 EP), Laboratory (1 EP), Library (1 EP), Living Space (1 EP), Personnel (1 EP), Power System (1 EP), Security System (DC 30, 3 EP), Workshop (1 EP)

ADVANTAGES
Attractive (1), Benefit [Fame, Wealthy (5)], Connected, Contacts, Eidetic Memory, Equipment (5), Improvised Tools, Inventor, Skill Mastery [Technology], Taunt, Ultimate Effort [Technology]

SKILLS
Deception 8 (+12), Expertise [Business] 7 (+17), Expertise [Politics] 7 (+17), Expertise [Science] 5 (+15), Insight 6 (+8), Intimidation 4 (+8), Investigation 8 (+10), Perception 6 (+8), Persuasion 6 (+10), Ranged Combat [Repulsors] 5 (+7), Technology 10 (+20), Vehicles 8 (+10)

DEFENSE
Dodge (4) Base 3
Parry: (7) Base 4
Fortitude: (10/7) Base 5
Toughness: (15/2) Base -
Will: (6) Base 4

ABILITIES [ 25 pp ] + SKILLS [ 40 pp ] + ADVANTAGES [ 20 pp ] + POWERS [ 64 pp ] + DEFENSES [ 16 pp ] = 165 PP TOTAL

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Genius billionaire playboy philanthropist. Built a suit of armor in a cave with a box OF SCRAPS! Do I really need a detailed biography for this guy? Go rent some movies.

Edit 10/21/12: Working through the list of errors kindly supplied by Psistrike.
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Re: Batgirl III's Character Thread (Iron Man)

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Really liking that Iron Man, but then, he is one of my favorite superheroes. I'm also surprised (though i probably shouldn't be) that you managed to fit so much good stuff into a PC-capable build, even PL 11.
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Re: Batgirl III's Character Thread (Iron Man)

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One thing I've always enjoyed is taking beloved and well-established characters, deconstructing them to their bases, and them rebuilding them as streamlined versions for play. The Marvel Cinematic Universe creators have done very much the same thing with all of the Avengers. Certain traits and features that we comic-book nerds might consider "essential" were dropped, left out, or toned down: Black Widow doesn't have her dozens of different gadgets in her wrist blaster -- just a super-stun gun; Iron Man doesn't have Extremis tech or any other newer stuff -- just the awesome suit; Cap doesn't have 60+ years of characterization as the greatest tactical mind and best-est leader ever -- he's badass, he's smart, and he's charming.

In fact, I think I might have gotten the Hulk down to a PL10/150PP level. Yes, the Hulk... because, ultimately, you can be PL10 and still be incredible.
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Re: Batgirl III's Character Thread (Iron Man)

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Batgirl III wrote:In fact, I think I might have gotten the Hulk down to a PL10/150PP level. Yes, the Hulk... because, ultimately, you can be PL10 and still be incredible.
I totally agree with this whole post, and really like your perspective. The last bit is a sentiment I agree with--PL 10 is still pretty huge in a lot of settings, and characters can do plenty at that level. I guess I tend to overshoot on a lot of stuff at least in power points. PL is easier to get set than exact points totals, in my experience.
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Re: Batgirl III's Character Thread (Iron Man)

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Batgirl III wrote:One thing I've always enjoyed is taking beloved and well-established characters, deconstructing them to their bases, and them rebuilding them as streamlined versions for play. The Marvel Cinematic Universe creators have done very much the same thing with all of the Avengers. Certain traits and features that we comic-book nerds might consider "essential" were dropped, left out, or toned down: Black Widow doesn't have her dozens of different gadgets in her wrist blaster -- just a super-stun gun; Iron Man doesn't have Extremis tech or any other newer stuff -- just the awesome suit; Cap doesn't have 60+ years of characterization as the greatest tactical mind and best-est leader ever -- he's badass, he's smart, and he's charming.

In fact, I think I might have gotten the Hulk down to a PL10/150PP level. Yes, the Hulk... because, ultimately, you can be PL10 and still be incredible.
Personally I think that this is what makes the Phaso One movies so good, they took the characters, stripped to their bare bones and rebuilt them in a way that makes them fit together without sacrificing their key traits or trying to be modern at all costs (yes, Ultimate Universe, I'm looking to you).
As for the Hulk at PL10, I think it might be a little low, Thor and Iron Man were more or less on equal ground, as well as Thor and Hulk. So if Iron Man is PL11, I think that both the other big guns should too.
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Re: Batgirl III's Character Thread (Iron Man)

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Power Level 10 ( 150 PP)
The Avengers wrote:Security Guard: Are you an alien?
Bruce Banner: What?
Security Guard: From outer space, an alien.
Bruce Banner: No.
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ABILITIES
Strength 15 (Lifting 20) Stamina 14 Agility 1 Dexterity 1
Fighting 3 Intellect 2 Awareness 3 Presence 3

POWERS
Giant-Sized Growth 4 (+4 Str, +4 Sta; +2 Intimidation, -2 Defenses; E: Permanent, Innate) [ 9 PP ]
Incredible Immunity 7 (all environmental conditions [5], disease [1], poison[1]) [ 7 PP ]; Impervious Toughness 12 [ 12 PP ]

Gamma Strength Enhanced Strength 5 (E: Dynamic; F: Limited to Lifting) [ 6 PP ]
Dynamic Alternate: Gamma Leap Leaping 8 (E: Precise; Flaw: Distracting ) [ 2 PP ]
Dynamic Alternate: Gamma Run Speed 5 (60 MPH) [ 2 PP ]

ADVANTAGES
All-Out Attack, Close Combat (1), Die Hard, Fast Grab, Fearless, Improved Grab, Improved Smash, Power Attack, Startle, Takedown (2)

SKILLS
Acrobatics 4 (+5), Athletics 4 (+19), Deception 2 (+5), Expertise [Science] 10 (+12), Expertise [Medicine] 8 (+10), Insight 3 (+6), Investigation 5 (+8), Perception 2 (+4), Treatment 6 (+8)

DEFENSE
Dodge (6) Base 5
Parry: (6) Base 3
Fortitude: (14) Base 0
Toughness: (14) Base -
Will: (6) Base 3

COMPLICATIONS
Normal Identity: When the Hulk is calm, he becomes Bruce Banner, who has STR 0, STA 0, AGI 1, DEX 1, FGT 3, INT 8, AWA 4, PRE 1, but none of the Hulk’s other traits Powers or Advantages.
Reputation: Hulk smashed lot of things... puny humans are mad.

ABILITIES [ 68 pp ] + SKILLS [ 22 pp ] + ADVANTAGES [ 11 pp ] + POWERS [ 38 pp ] + DEFENSES [ 11 pp ] = 150 PP TOTAL

Edit 10/21/12: Working through the list of errors kindly supplied by Psistrike.

:arrow: The Marvel Cinematic Universe version of the Hulk isn't the world-breaking physical god of current continuity on Earth-616. He is "merely" strong enough to rip steel as if it were paper, toss main battle tanks like they were sacks of flour, or leap the Empire State Building in a single bound. He can also shrug off direct hits from heavy machine guns or RPGs. Compared with the Avengers, Hulk is a scary thing to see on the wrong side of a fight from you, but he is limited -- Hulk smashes, Hulk is nearly indestructible, but that's about it.
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Re: Batgirl III's Character Thread (Iron Man, Hulk)

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Marvel Cinematic Universe
Power Level 11 ( 165 PP)
The Avengers wrote:Bruce Banner: I don't think we should be focusing on Loki. That guy's brain is a bag full of cats. You can smell crazy on him.
Thor: Have a care how you speak! Loki is beyond reason, but he is of Asgard and he is my brother!
Natasha Romanoff: He killed eighty people in two days.
Thor: He's adopted.


ABILITIES
Strength 10 (Lifting 12) Stamina 8 Agility 2 Dexterity 2
Fighting 7 Intellect 2 Awareness 4 Presence 4

POWERS
Asgardian Physiology Immunity 5 (Aging, Disease, Poison, Enviromental Heat and Cold) [ 5 PP ]; Senses 2 (Extended Vision, Extended Hearing) [ 2 PP ]; Enhanced Advantages 2 (Diehard, Great Endurance) [ 2 PP ]; Enhanced Strength 2 (Flaw: Limited to Lifting) [ 2 PP ]; Speed 1 (4 MPH)

Asgardian Armor (Array; 15 PP Base) (Flaws: Removable [-1 per 5]) [ 12 PP Total ]
Protection 5 [ 5 PP ]; Impervious Toughness 10 [ 10 PP ]

Mjölnir (Array; 30 PP Base) (Extras: Feature: Indestructible Flaws: Removable [-1 per 5]) [ 25 PP Total ]
Life Support Immunity 5 (Suffocation, Vacuum, High Pressure) [ 5 PP ]
Weather Control Environment 8 (Half-Mile Radius; Impede Movement [2], Visibility [1]; Flaws: Activation [Move Action]; Limited [Only Outdoors]) [ 15 PP ]
Hammer Strike Damage 3 (Strength-based) [ 4 PP ] Enhanced Advantages 2 (Improved Smash, Improved Critical [3]) [ 3 PP ]
Alternate: Hammer Throw Damage 2 (Strength-based) (E: Homing; Ranged; Penetrating [2]) [ 1 PP ]
Alternate: Hammer Flight Flight 7 (500 MPH; Flaw: Concentration) [ 1 PP ]
Alternate: Lighting Strike Damage 8 (Extras: Area [Line], Indirect [Any Direction] (4), Penetrating (1), Ranged, Variable Descriptor [Thunder or Lightning]; Flaws: Activation [Move Action], Limited [Only Outdoors], Limited [Must Have Weather Control Active], Quirk [Full Power]) [ 1 PP]

ADVANTAGES
All-Out Attack, Attractive (1), Close Attack (2), Defensive Roll (2), Diehard, Fearless, Great Endurance, Improved Smash, Improved Critical [Hammer Strike] (3), Languages (1), Move-By Attack, Power Attack, Uncanny Dodge

SKILLS
Athletics 2 (+12), Expertise [Magic] 2 (+4), Insight 2 (+6), Intimidation 6 (+10), Perception 4 (+8), Persuasion 4 (+8), Ranged Combat [Hammer] 6 (+8)

DEFENSE
Dodge (7) Base 5
Parry: (7) Base 0
Fortitude: (11) Base 3
Toughness: (15/13/8) Base -
Will: (10) Base 6

ABILITIES [ 78 pp ] + SKILLS [ 13 pp ] + ADVANTAGES [ 11 pp ] + POWERS [ 49 pp ] + DEFENSES [ 14 pp ] = 165 PP TOTAL

:arrow: Thor probably has the most raw power of any of the Avengers, but he lacks a lot of the experience that makes Captain America such a skilled leader or the creativity that makes Iron Man so dynamic. Mjölnir gives him a lot more flexibility than the typical "flying brick," but Thor is used to being stronger and tougher than almost any opponent and tends to resort to melee before considering other options.

Edit 10/21/12: Working through the list of errors kindly supplied by Psistrike.
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Re: Batgirl III's Character Thread (Iron Man, Hulk, Thor)

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Marvel Cinematic Universe
Power Level 6 ( 75 PP)
Iron Man 2 wrote:Agent Coulson:If you try to escape, or play any sort of games with me, I will taze you and watch Supernanny while you drool into the carpet.


ABILITIES
Strength 1 Stamina 2 Agility 1 Dexterity 1
Fighting 5 Intellect 2 Awareness 3 Presence 0

EQUIPMENT (35 EP)
► Assault Rifle, Light Pistol, S.H.I.E.L.D. Commlink, Body Armor (Protection 3, Subtle), other equipment as necessary.

ADVANTAGES
Assessment, Benefit [S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent], Equipment (5), Precise Attack, Ranged Attack (3), Seize Initiative, Takedown (1)

SKILLS
Athletics 4 (+5), Deception 4 (+4), Expertise [Business] 6 (+8), Expertise [Espionage] 6 (+8), Expertise [Tactics] 4 (+6), Intimidation 2 (+2), Perception 2 (+5), Persuasion 6 (+6), Ranged Combat [Pistol] 4 (+5), Technology 4 (+6), Vehicles 4 (+5)

DEFENSE
Dodge (5) Base 4
Parry: (5) Base 0
Fortitude: (5) Base 3
Toughness: (5) Base -
Will: (5) Base 2

ABILITIES [ 30 pp ] + SKILLS [ 23 pp ] + ADVANTAGES [ 13 pp ] + POWERS [ 0 pp ] + DEFENSES [ 9 pp ] = 75 PP TOTAL

:arrow: Agent Coulson is a S.H.I.E.L.D. field agent, but unlike the Black Widow or Hawkeye, his area of expertise is more diplomat, investigator, and manager. He is still perfectly capable of following through on his threat to taze the piss out of Tony.

Maria Hill
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Power Level 6 ( 75 PP)
The Avengers (Trailer) wrote:Maria Hill:You put those people together, you can't expect what's going to happen...


ABILITIES
Strength 1 Stamina 2 Agility 1 Dexterity 1
Fighting 3 Intellect 2 Awareness 2 Presence 2

EQUIPMENT (10 EP)
► Light Pistol, S.H.I.E.L.D. Commlink, Computer, other equipment as necessary.

ADVANTAGES
Benefit [S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent], Defensive Roll (1), Equipment (5), Improved Aim, Improved Initiative, Precise Attack, Quick Draw, Ranged Attack (4)

SKILLS
Athletics 3 (+4), Deception 3 (+5), Expertise [Current Events] 6 (+8), Expertise [Espionage] 4 (+6), Expertise [Military Sciences] 6 (+8), Intimidation 2 (+4), Investigation 2 (+4), Perception 2 (+4), Persuasion 3 (+5), Ranged Combat [Pistol] 4 (+5), Technology 4 (+6), Vehicles 5 (+6)

DEFENSE
Dodge (4) Base 3
Parry: (5) Base 2
Fortitude: (4) Base 2
Toughness: (4/2) Base -
Will: (5) Base 3

ABILITIES [ 28 pp ] + SKILLS [ 22 pp ] + ADVANTAGES [ 15 pp ] + POWERS [ 0 pp ] + DEFENSES [ 10 pp ] = 75 PP TOTAL

:arrow: Maria Hill is the deputy director of S.H.I.E.L.D., this means she leans more to the "paperwork" side of international espionage... but Hill doesn't let that stop her from kicking ass when called upon to do so.
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Re: Batgirl III's Character Thread (Iron Man, Hulk, Thor)

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Batgirl III wrote::arrow: Agent Coulson is a S.H.I.E.L.D. field agent, but unlike the Black Widow or Hawkeye, his area of expertise is more diplomat, investigator, and manager. He is still perfectly capable of following through on his threat to taze the piss out of Tony.
Youtube. Search "A funny thing happened on the way to Thor`s Hammer."

Coulson is the male Black Widow.

My quote for him would have been:

"I couldn`t decide between the chocolate and the vanilla so I took both..."

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Re: Batgirl III's Character Thread (Iron Man, Hulk, Thor)

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Bladewind wrote:Youtube. Search "A funny thing happened on the way to Thor`s Hammer."

Coulson is the male Black Widow.
I just finished watching that, and logged back in here to tweak his build. :wink:

I've given Coulson Sieze Initiative and Take Down, because he clearly got the drop on those mooks and goon sweeped the both of them in one combat round. I'm sticking with my PL5 assessment though, those goons weren't much more than your basic Thugs. But, damn, Phil got some moves.

I really, really hope Joss Whedon's S.H.I.E.L.D. television pilot gets picked up... (Mostly because I'm daydreaming about the cameo's from Whedon's regular troupe.)
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