about damage

[Rakumi]

I have been a little confused about this. I think i semi understood at one point but forgot. Damage from an attack is added by +15 for a total of what the DC is right? So like 10 damage equals DC 25 vs say toughness check. So at what times do you only add 10 to your damage check? Isnt it like direct area damage gets +10 and attack damage is +15? I am not sure in all the areas you add to create the total DC.

[JDRook]

In combat, there are usually two steps, each involving 1 die roll:

1) the Attack check vs the target's Defense DC, where the DC is (almost*) always DC10 + defense rank

2) if the attack succeeds, the target's Resistance check versus the Effect's DC

DC15 + effect rank is only used for Toughness resistance checks vs Damage effects. These are the most common effects, of course, and includes punches and kicks, most weapons, and many powers.

Any effect that is not Damage, like Affliction or Weaken, is resisted by DC10 + effect rank. Almost all of the attacks in the game are some variation of Damage or Affliction.


*if the target is using the Defend maneuver, both attacker and target roll and add ranks. Also, Area and Perception Range attacks hit automatically.

[HappyDaze]

DC15 + effect rank is only used for Toughness resistance checks vs Damage effects. These are the most common effects, of course, and includes punches and kicks, most weapons, and many powers.

DC 15 + effect rank is used against ALL Damage effects, regardless of what Resistance is used - it is because of the way the Damage results are tallied and has nothing to do with Toughness (except that the most common Damage effects are Resisted by Toughness).

[Rakumi]

DC15 + effect rank is only used for Toughness resistance checks vs Damage effects. These are the most common effects, of course, and includes punches and kicks, most weapons, and many powers.

DC 15 + effect rank is used against ALL Damage effects, regardless of what Resistance is used - it is because of the way the Damage results are tallied and has nothing to do with Toughness (except that the most common Damage effects are Resisted by Toughness).

So you mean this includes attacks that say do mental damage as well.

[Cobalt]

So you mean this includes attacks that say do mental damage as well.

Yes, even mental damage. Its regardless of the type of damage being inflicted. I cant, off the top of my head, think of a time when the save DC would change.. Damage is Rank+15, Affliction is Rank +10

[Rakumi]

Ok... So i am further understanding things... Thanks. So let me ask about degrees of damage. -9 and below for the DC is -1 degree failure? And only reaching -10 DC equals -2 degrees? Also if a person fails by 3 degrees and becomes staggered, and while staggered they fail again 3 degrees and would be staggered a second time, they are now incapacitated? Also when they say you heal one condition at a time, does this mean after incapacitated, you still have staggered on you and daze as well? So when staggered goes away you have the dazed left? Is that how it works?

[Greyman]

Ok... So i am further understanding things... Thanks. So let me ask about degrees of damage. -9 and below for the DC is -1 degree failure? And only reaching -10 DC equals -2 degrees?

No, just as success is equal or greater than DC, every degree of failure is equal or greater than DC -(5*degree). Thus one degree of failure is DC-1 down to DC-5. Two degrees is DC-6 down to DC-10. Each additional degree is another range of 5.

That is, for DC 20, a roll of 15 to 19 is one degree of failure, while a roll of 10 to 14 is two degrees, 5 to 9 is three degrees, and 0 to 4 is four degrees. (Conversely, if it becomes important to know, 20 to 24 is one degree of success, 25 to 29 is two degrees of success, et cetera.)

Also if a person fails by 3 degrees and becomes staggered, and while staggered they fail again 3 degrees and would be staggered a second time, they are now incapacitated?

Yes.

Also when they say you heal one condition at a time, does this mean after incapacitated, you still have staggered on you and daze as well? So when staggered goes away you have the dazed left? Is that how it works?

Yes, that's the order of recovery, followed by the accumulated -1 penalty to resistance checks, which each take a minute to recover. However, you do only need to recover from conditions you actually suffer.

Dazed is slightly different from the other conditions though. You only remain dazed by damage until the end of your next turn; not for one minute like the rest. However, you still can't begin to recover from it until you recover from being incapacitated, or then staggered.

[Walking Dad]

Related recovery question:

page 179 says that you generate the worst condition first and then the toughness penalties and that Healing and Regeneration can speed up this.

On page 112, under Regeneration, the text says you start with toughness penalties and then regenerate the conditions.

Is their something wrong and both should work the same, or is the difference intended??

[Murkglow]

The difference is intended. Regeneration works differently from Healing or natural recovery.

[HappyDaze]

The difference is intended. Regeneration works differently from Healing or natural recovery.

Excepting the first rank when taken by a character lacking Stamina, which effectively provides natural healing.