Age of Wonders thread IV

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Re: Age of Wonders thread IV

Post by Voltron64 » Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:58 pm

Plus, I thought the Titans created the Devourers?
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Re: Age of Wonders thread IV

Post by Charles Phipps » Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:00 pm

Voltron64 wrote:Plus, I thought the Titans created the Devourers?
I did that but I'm debating whether that makes sense since the Titans are about creating Hell vs. The End killing everyone.

And the Devourers do much more of the latter than former.

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Re: Age of Wonders thread IV

Post by Voltron64 » Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:07 pm

Charles Phipps wrote:
Voltron64 wrote:Plus, I thought the Titans created the Devourers?
I did that but I'm debating whether that makes sense since the Titans are about creating Hell vs. The End killing everyone.

And the Devourers do much more of the latter than former.
So the Titans just stole the credit for themselves. :roll:
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Re: Age of Wonders thread IV

Post by Charles Phipps » Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:18 pm

Voltron64 wrote:
So the Titans just stole the credit for themselves. :roll:
Or, just as likely, they repurposed it for themselves.

The two have a persistent history of using the other's stuff.

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Re: Age of Wonders thread IV

Post by greycrusader » Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:55 pm

Remember, the Titans have a LONG history of usurping/perverting other creatures for their own designs-they took control of the Daemonites through sheer might (no Daemon Lord is close to a match for a single Titan) and created a whole dimension for the sole purpose of transforming wayward human ghosts into malicious Angry Dead.
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Re: Age of Wonders thread IV

Post by Voltron64 » Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:58 pm

greycrusader wrote:Remember, the Titans have a LONG history of usurping/perverting other creatures for their own designs-they took control of the Daemonites through sheer might (no Daemon Lord is close to a match for a single Titan) and created a whole dimension for the sole purpose of transforming wayward human ghosts into malicious Angry Dead.
Yeah, it's a game of constant one-upmanship between The End and the Titans over who can be the biggest tw**.
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Re: Age of Wonders thread IV

Post by Charles Phipps » Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:08 pm

Comments part 2
Libra wrote: The Hashishan: As a collection of practiced, professional killers seeking to eliminate the tyrannical law-makers of the Universe, The Hashishan might on a good day be expected to pass muster as anti-villains (and quite possibly embraced as 'just like home' by Arbitrator, as well as Mrs and Mr Cosmic but that's another story), at least half the time.

The problem is that these professional killers and their excruciating toys are being maintained by the largest and most esoteric drug network in creation, that many of their 'distractions' are fuelled by these drugs and that the less noble of their members are therefore assigned to make sure that 'The Spice' keeps flowing so that Tyrants can keep dying across The Nexus.
The Assassins, as we can call them that since Ubisoft doesn't read this thread, are a bit less of the morally perfect good guys their games depict them as well. Originally born out of the Caliphate to fight against the Tyranny of Red Jade, their leader at the time bore not too much of a disimilarity to Paul Atreides.

Their eternal and never-ending war on the forces of tyranny is influenced by said figures Pre-sight that predicted the return of the Titans and many other bits of unpleasantness. Unfortunately, the organization is somewhat adrift after the collapse of the Caliphate (and the loss of their favorite foes).

Their excessive consumption of mind-altering, divination bestowing chemicals (not remotely similar to "spice") leads them to some questionable decisions. It also bestows upon them rather massive amounts of psychic abilities they frequently pass down to their children. The problem is that it ALSO results in individuals developing somewhat minor habits of megalomania, ruthlessness, paranoia, and delusions of grandeur.

As a result, the Assassins are quite capable of liquidfying the entire population of a planet if their visions inform them that doing so will save a trillion lives later on. This, of course, ignoring they might have done so much easier if they'd informed said planet their anti-matter experiments were dangerous (or hell, just killed the guy who discovers it).

It doesn't help that a third of the assassins have finally found the "Second One" who will guide them in their crusade against the rest of the galaxy. A person who is even now methodically picking away leadership of his enemies and establishing a vast network of supporters across the Multiverse.

Unfortunately, that person is Lord Scorpio.
Libra wrote: The Necro-Justicars: At some point in Justicar-0s personal history, the heads of his Department took it upon themselves to charge those of their colleagues with the greatest degree of scientific and occult knowledge with the task of unravelling the greatest mysteries of Life and Death so that the greatest Justices of the Age might live on for all time. The project was presented with a variety of solid, but dispensable test-subjects drawn from the ranks of The Justicars, the most promising of whom were submitted to a range of efforts to make them immortal.

In the case of Justicars Manslaughter, Grand Theft, Vice and DOOM they were unfortunately successful; each failed to enjoy their own version of Immortality and they have all been making life that much shorter and more beset by peril ever since, most often separately or 'buddied up' in the classic fashion played for the blackest of comedy - Justicar-0 has been trying to permanently imprison or incapacitate them ever since and with only mixed success or worse yet Phyrric victory to reward his efforts.

Still, with the Outrageous Order to back him up, he may actually stand a chance of stopping them - if he can ever master his shaky grasp of people skills long enough to get them pointed in the right direction.
Hmmm, a bunch of immortal omnicidal maniacs seeking to kill everyone. Where have we heard that before? In this case, the Necro-Justicars are amusingly NOT affiliated with the End or his posse.

This is not a state of affairs which will last long, however. Harmonius Jade in Winter has lost her Eternal Lords of Suicide (a collection of heroes who committed suicide which didn't take) due to the Outrageous Order doing that thing they do.

She's become aware of the Necro-Justicars and is ready to offer them a job. Whether they'll spit in her face is anyone's guess (most likely--then she'll empower them ANYWAY).

(The "Winter Lady" is as omnicidal as every member of the team BUT the Ordinary and the King in Shadows--it's just she considers it a favor to a suffering reality)
The Purists: One of the most personal threats to Big Ajax is, unsurprisingly, rather low on the hellish totem pole of threats to the OUTRAGEOUS Order despite their blatant contempt for these 'surprisingly-scientific savages' which is one of the major reasons that the Purist's major centres of power in Londinium have not been reduced to slightly-glowing rubble starkly lit by the flames of a major purge.


The Purist movement has weakened considerably in recent years as even the man on the street has started to notice there's something terribly wrong with this country. Specifically, the planets in the boonies are getting slaughtered wholesale or are bloodily engaging in the equivalent of Ragnarok one after the other. It's a bit like being in your typical hard sci-fi movie when an angel fighting a demon smashes through your wall.

The Purists are doing their best to cover it up, being a largely atheist masquerading as Christian organization, but already miraculous events like Aeons and magic are starting to occur even on the homeworld. Their desperate desire to choose their own side in the fight between Good and Evil is not getting respected and that's just dirty pool!
The Sovius Empire: Captain Carpenter HATES Space-Nazis, but can be relied upon to do his best to keep his worst impulses at bay in the interests of getting away with his latest effort to subvert their intolerable regimen - everyone else is pretty happy to go along because ... you know COMMIE-FASCISTS IN SPACE AND TIME, even though The Arbitrator feels a vague sensation of guilt when he does so (mostly because The Arbitrator is always feeling some vague sensation of guilt; that's what happens when you're raised Space Inquisition-Nazi) and Justicar-0 can always be relief upon to make some cutting remarks about not being a political officer.

The Sovius HATE these guys for ... well, a wide range of reasons, most of them stemming from damage to their Imperium, their Plans and their Pride, but would really love to offer their resident Post-human Killing Machine a job (which he PROBABLY would not accept - the problem is that The Black Arbitrators WOULD).
The Sovius endless series of sudden reversals has spiked as well as come to a sudden end. The Sovius homeworld's destruction at the hands of their Star Spangled Demigoddess has formally and completely eradicated their Central Committee as well as exposed the organization to its own ugly stupidity. Hundreds of worlds under their tender loving care have been forcicibly liberated and it looked like their Space Nazi Empire would finally come to an end.

Sadly, this is not the case. What has happened instead is mass-warlordism with individuals going out to spread the Sovius cause through time and space. The previously banned areas of research into time-travel, Nexus superpowers, magic, and so on have been thrown into with the wild abandon of a madman. Worlds which previously resisted the full might of a thousand galaxies fall to a hundred worlds with genius commanders who never would have been promoted due to their iffy pedigrees.

It's basically the Freedomverse case where Hitler could never win the war but Superior and/or Overshadow certainly could. Really, the only good sign is they hate each other almost as much as others. The Outrageous Order feels somewhat guilty over this (given they released Red Jade's daughter from her temporal prison) but have a sensible response to the Sovius' Hydra like sensibility.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyfwMzD5Hiw
The One Above All: ONE and his drones really hate this crew because they're a devastating counter-assault against his entire system in the form of a single super-ship and it's super-crew ... but ONE is prepared to endure and survive them, because like a summer storm they come and go as they will, but when they're obliged to flee by his legions they leave behind a mess that makes ONE look like a reasonably-attractive alternative to anarchy.

At least he COULD endure them if it were not for his greatest and most persistent living enemy (TWO doesn't count by virtue of being questionably-alive) VIDEO GAME GIRL!

The O!!O HATE ONE because ... well he's an EVIL VIDEO GAME OVERLORD and that sort of makes him the kind of being they were formed to fight (Also Justicar-0 wants to prosecute him on charges of Cyber-Crime so numerous that an unworthy few suspect him of making them up as he goes along); also they miss Video Game Girl a lot and would like to work with her more often.
Nothing to add but awesome.

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The Zero Minus One: Genocidal killing machines without any surviving trace of Humanity, possessed of all the alternate genius and stupidity of the thinking machine ... you really don't have to look far for reasons to fight 0-1/0 whenever they appear. When their would-be masters 0-X show up, a crew of cyborgs long since condemned to be more machine than man, extremely angry about that degeneration and prone to venerate Daemonites as a consequence of their fury with this unwanted condition (they wanted to be CYBORGS, not ZOMBIE-cyborgs), you really do have to search hard for a GOOD reason to make no attempt to stop them turning 0-1/0 into sadistic genocidal kill-machines.

When The Arbitrator AND Captain Carpenter are champing at the bit to put their differences aside and nix this particular threat, you'd better come up with an EXCELLENT reason (none of the O!!O are nihilistic or selfish enough to even try, because even the worst of them aren't THAT bad).
The Zero Minus One's complete and utter destruction is somehting which has, so far, been done three times with a permanency that hasn't stuck yet a completeness not seen out of anywhere but Doctor Who. The Doctor, who has accomplished the destruction of the Daleks on no less than six occasions (seven counting Skaro's destruction) sympathizes with the Arbitrator's failed attempts at genocide even if he thinks this group takes a little too much relish in the act. Still, Earth-000 has been avenged and the footsoldier/Orcs of The End have been removed from play for the time being.

Perhaps illustrating the fact humanity is a race too dumb to live, the current most likely resurrection of the Z-10 is probably not going to happen at the hands of the End's minions but more likely some idiot trying to use their technology for his own gain.

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Re: Age of Wonders thread IV

Post by Charles Phipps » Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:20 pm

MightyDavidson wrote:Oh, please tell about Feathered Serpent Maiden and The Brute please Charles.
Feathered Serpent Maiden: From an unknown planet where Europe was invaded by steampunk wielding Aztecs in the 14th century. These Aztecs had long since abandoned their more sordid religious practices for the reverence of a non-human sacrifice practicing Quetzalcoatl sect. Interested in spreading the missionary word of "don't tear people's hearts out on altars" along with the benefits of science, the 22nd century version of this society sent Tlazol'teotl and her many other priestess sisters to other worlds in stasis pods where they knew the Aztec (and similar human sacrifice practicing cultures) were thriving.

Unfortunately, this is riskier than it sounds and Tlazo ended up in stasis for a number of centuries thereafter. Her finding by El Grande has dumped her into a very crazy world (she considers Christianity to be a somewhat ludicrous pagan religion) but has decided to assist El Grande's "family" until Pendulum can find out if her world is still intact. She is armed with numerous high technology devices as well as a master of hand-to-hand combat. She keeps up with the rest of the team by using her gravity-control belt to assist her martial arts.

Given she's a STRIKINGLY beautiful Mexican woman, the fan boards are alive with shipping her to every other member of the team.

The Brute: A member of the Extreme Team who has decided to do a wrestling (and real life) Heel-Face-Turn. The Brute was a long-time enemy of El Grande both in and out of the ring. He possesses near-equivalent strength due to his ability to grow stronger for the amount of punishment he absorbs. The Brute's more or less unstoppable by hitting him with anything, so its a credit El Grande actually has defeated him with brute strength on multiple occasions. The Order, by contrast, considered the Brute a joke since what he lacked in finesse, he more than lacks in strategy.

The Brute's redemption seems insincere to everyone but El Grande, however, since he lies like he breathes regarding everything from his backstory to his reasons for defecting. Johnny Tesla suspects, probably quite rightly, he prefers working for the El Grande Family because he is sick of getting beaten up by people who knew how to do it. He also smokes cigars like cigarettes.

So far, El Grande ignores the Brute's taking cash from their enemies and exploiting his relatively modest fame for personal gain.

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Re: Age of Wonders thread IV

Post by Libra » Sat Nov 16, 2013 7:44 am

Charles, just popping in to thank you kindly for your comments and say that I shall do my best to give them a suitable reply before I start work on my next project:- EARTH 1986 AT LENGTH (or at least in a little more detail, depending on just how far I get). :D
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Re: Age of Wonders thread IV

Post by Voltron64 » Sat Nov 16, 2013 8:13 am

Hell yeah, Libra!

Maybe after that, you could do Earth-1938 in-depth too if you're able?
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Re: Age of Wonders thread IV

Post by Libra » Sat Nov 16, 2013 8:44 am

I'm willing to give that a go once I've finally brought the fruit of all the discussions with Grey Crusader into the light (and hopefully earned my place in his good books as a result!); that will however require a fair bit of extrapolation from previous posts and a deal of thought (suggestions to possible articles related to that topic would also be appreciated!). :D
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Re: Age of Wonders thread IV

Post by Voltron64 » Sat Nov 16, 2013 8:46 am

Libra wrote:I'm willing to give that a go once I've finally brought the fruit of all the discussions with Grey Crusader into the light (and hopefully earned my place in his good books as a result!); that will however require a fair bit of extrapolation from previous posts and a deal of thought (suggestions to possible articles related to that topic would also be appreciated!). :D
Good thing you're one of the great thinkers of our age! :mrgreen:
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Re: Age of Wonders thread IV

Post by Libra » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:14 am

Of this thread, perhaps, and probably not even the greatest (but thank you very much for that modest vote of confidence in my imagination). :)


Charles, I've been having a few thoughts regarding Earth-617 (Captain Carpenter's home when he wasn't at home on Daedalus) and even one or two concerning the Universe in which it revolves; when I get around to ordering them, would you prefer it if I PM'd them to you or would you rather we discussed them in the Main Thread?

Reply to your comments shall be made soon. :D
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Re: Age of Wonders thread IV

Post by Voltron64 » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:15 am

Libra wrote:Of this thread, perhaps, and probably not even the greatest (but thank you very much for that modest vote of confidence in my imagination). :)


Charles, I've been having a few thoughts regarding Earth-617 (Captain Carpenter's home when he wasn't at home on Daedalus) and even one or two concerning the Universe in which it revolves; when I get around to ordering them, would you prefer it if I PM'd them to you or would you rather we discussed them in the Main Thread?

Reply to your comments shall be made soon. :D
Why not both? :wink:
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Re: Age of Wonders thread IV

Post by Libra » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:18 am

In all honesty because I am deeply reluctant to post my initial ideas in the Main Thread, given they tend to be rough rather than readable, also because such duplication seems a trifle redundant - in short because a rather large part of my ego would like Charles to reassure me that Yes, there is something interesting to be made from working past this crude beginning.
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