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Re: The Combined DCU-Marvel Universe thread

Post by Charles Phipps » Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:59 pm

Voltron64 wrote:So the Sinestro Corps have their own version of Leezle Pon now? Lovely.
He pretty much is the living embodiment of mutant phobia.

Which means it's great practice for literally punching hatred!

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Re: The Combined DCU-Marvel Universe thread

Post by Charles Phipps » Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:02 pm

Voltron64 wrote:I can imagine this become a popular line of thought for lots of people after such revelations.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCuqR2l4Ztk

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Eh, if ANYONE can kill the Celestials, it's the heroes of Earth.

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Re: The Combined DCU-Marvel Universe thread

Post by Phrozen » Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:12 pm

If I may step in.

The Shade

The Shade has had a long and secret history. Born in early 19th century London, Richard Swift would of had an unremarkable life if he had not been kidnapped by the Hellfire Club and forced to participate in a dark ritual headed by Selene to make her an avatar of the Darkforce, a twisted dimension of shadows mimicking Earth-777. The ritual was interrupted by Dr. Fate and the Ancient One. Instead of Selene gaining the power of the Darkforce, it was split between Swift and another participant a dwarf named Culp. The ritual did leave Swift without memory.

Richard was picked up by a family of murders and con men called the Ludlows. When they tried to murder Swift as part of one of their cons, Richard lashed out with his new found shadow powers killing all of them but two. The Ludlow family would try to kill Richard Stumbling out from his attempted murder, Richard was picked by his old friend Charles Dickens. Slowly, Richard regained his memory and Dickens payed homage to his friend in some of his books.

After an encounter with a surviving Ludlow and the first of many battles with Culp, Swift was contacted by Dr. Fate and was used as a kind of secret mercenary for the mystical world. He was assigned to collect artifacts of great evil or foil the plans of mystics for which neither Fate nor the Ancient One could interfere in. In these adventures, much unknown to those outside the magical community, Richard faced off with Selene, Dracula, Klarion, Wotan, and others. Throughout this period Swifts power and ability with his power grew to the point that even though he was no mystic, his shadows could more then compensate. His immortality and ability to regenerate. One these adventures, Swift made sure to profit handsomely.

Breaking free from Dr. Fate and the Ancient One, Swift traveled to America where he made fast friends with Scalphunter, Jonah Hex, and the Two Gun Kid. Buying real estate in the small town of Opal, Maryland which would later become Opal City, Shade left the states for Paris where he fell in love with a woman named Marguerite Croft. This relationship turned to disaster when Marguerite revealed herself to be a Ludlow and poisoned Swift. While not fatal, Swift was forced to kill Croft as she would never stop trying to kill him. With the love of his life dead by his own hand a heartbroken Swift returned to the now Opal city and a mansion that he had built. He lived as a hermit, not coming outside the properties grounds for more then a decade.

It was the formation of the JSA and in particular Jay Garrick that awoke Swift from his ennui. Thinking it would be fun and entertaining to cut loose and be a ham for once. Swift adopted the moniker of The Shade and a villain costume of a early 18th century suit, sunglasses, cane, and top hat. Playing the supervillain was great fun for The Shade and though he was in no real danger from Garrick and really anybody save Green Lantern or Dr. Fate, he found the battles with The Flash to be exhilarating both in a physical sense and a mental one. It helped that Garrick had a quick wit to match his speed. With the exception of a quick detour during the blitz to protect London where Swift thought he had his last fight with Culp, Swift spent the 40s till the mid-50s battling Garrick. The last public showing of The Shade is when he killed the crime lord posing as hero The Spider in an effort to save Garrick's wife. With his ruse of villainy being exposed to Garrick, Swift retired to Opal City once again.

Since the 90s though The Shade has been making his presence known. First as sort of a mentor figure to Jack Knight who took up his fathers and brothers legacy as Starman. Then expanding his reach to others who had found a connection to the Darkforce like Shroud, Darkstar, Cloak, and Obsidian. He has assisted in the time lost Two Gun Kid. The Legion has reported that Richard Swift is still alive in the 31st century and would be a major intergalactic power by himself if he wished to be rather then just caretaker of a planet called Opal.

The Shade is rather uninterested in superheroics unless someone threatens things he likes: art, roses, architecture, and Opal City or people he likes: the Knights, the O'Dares, the Two Gun Kid. He is distrusted somewhat in the magic community as his powers came from a dark ritual and he is far more bloodthirsty then most good aligned mages. He has no compunction with killing his enemies or even worse trapping them in the Darkforce.

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Re: The Combined DCU-Marvel Universe thread

Post by EnigmaticOne » Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:16 pm

Charles Phipps wrote:Awesome version of Gorilla Grodd, though my version is hypocritical enough he'd come back to life if he could because REASONS.

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Understandable, I just think this Grodd should have SOME principles he actually sticks to - and as aforesaid, he considers it not unnatural if he avoids death - ala mind switching and clones. More of the letter of the law than the spirit.
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Re: The Combined DCU-Marvel Universe thread

Post by Charles Phipps » Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:20 pm

I'm impressed, Phrozen!

That's an awesome version of the Shade and nicely encapsulates the entirety of the character. I also loved how you tied him to Selene and the Hellfire Club.

Bravo.

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(Starman is one of my 'all time best series in comics' picks)

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Re: The Combined DCU-Marvel Universe thread

Post by Voltron64 » Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:25 pm

Charles, you think you do an article on Apocalypse?

As well as give us a brief summary of Earth-777's version of AvX? Not to mention the latest news and overall status of the world.
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Re: The Combined DCU-Marvel Universe thread

Post by Charles Phipps » Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:33 pm

Voltron64 wrote:Charles, you think you do an article on Apocalypse?

As well as give us a brief summary of Earth-777's version of AvX? Not to mention the latest news and overall status of the world.
Sure, I'm currently working on a Sentinels article, then I'll be happy to do Apocalypse and AvXvJLA.

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Re: The Combined DCU-Marvel Universe thread

Post by Phrozen » Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:38 pm

Charles Phipps wrote:I'm impressed, Phrozen!

That's an awesome version of the Shade and nicely encapsulates the entirety of the character. I also loved how you tied him to Selene and the Hellfire Club.

Bravo.

8)

(Starman is one of my 'all time best series in comics' picks)
I am just glad that Robinson retired Jack Knight before someone could do something horrible to him.

Also, who else would do something like that. Felix Faust wasn't around at that time. Also, it fits with the time period.

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Re: The Combined DCU-Marvel Universe thread

Post by Charles Phipps » Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:41 pm

Sentinels

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In all the world of superheroes, there are few beings which strike quite the same level of fear as the
two-story tall death-machines. Despite the continued attempts by numerous parties to shut down the manufacture of the horrific devices, they are continually recreated by individuals who only see their potential for destruction.

The first Sentinel was arguably created in the 1930s by the Ultra-Humanite, who created the archetypal “giant robot” for the purposes of eliminating a time-lost Superman. While the robot was a miserable failure, it managed to test Superman’s weakened self severely. Impressed by its power, research into mechanical soldiers began apace.

The Third Reich would build on the Ultra-Humanite’s designs with Vandal Savage’s knowledge of the Colossus of Rhodes to create The Sleeper and similar devices. These machines were able to seek out the superhuman DNA of their opponents using harvested human brains. The Red Skull envisioned an army of Sleepers capable of eradicating the genetically “unfit” and serving as his personal army.
Hydra would eventually use the robotics research on the Sleeper, combined with the work of Armind Zola to create the Super-Adaptoids and Dreadnoughts.

Professor Ivo maintains, to this day, the Super-Adaptoids are a rip-off of his work on the AMAZO device. The Mad Thinker has homicidal impulses regarding Professor Ivo’s claims, believing HE is the subject Hydra plagiarized.
The modern Sentinel would be created by Doctor Boliver Trask, whose achievement is best measured in its failure rather than success. An Old Money anthropologist and engineer rather than a roboticist, Doctor Trask essentially copied the research of scientists greater than himself in order to construct the first Sentinel.

Doctor Trask, believing in outdated evolutionary theories about how the neanderthal and previous branches of humanity were destroyed, decided mutants were a clear and present threat to modern mankind. Unfortunately, his skill at programming was far inferior to his ability to copy other scientist's research.
Doctor Will Magnus' mental breakdown came as a complete surprise to most of his fellow scientists, given he was largely considered one of the most stable and well-loved roboticists alive. In truth, Doctor Magnus' emotional instability came from the realization he'd provided Boliver Trask, gifted amateur at best, much of the information he'd needed to build his horrors.

Given Doctor Magnus has always been a champion of A.I. as friends to mankind, this was enough to drive him mad.
Doctor Trask’s short-cuts relied extensively on incorrect assumptions about race, genetics, and evolution as well as the original programming used by the Red Skull’s advanced (but ruthless) scientists. As a result, the Sentinels quickly determined the majority of humanity contained the mutant gene and that extermination of at least 97% of humanity would be required to “purify it.”

Doctor Trask sacrificed his life to destroy his creations but his legacy lived on. His (unknowingly mutant) son died trying to revive the project before Stephen Lang copied the design and improved them significantly. He sold variations on the designs to several competing corporations including LexCorp, Shaw Industries, Powers Technology, and Savage Industries.

President Lex Luthor's tenure would trigger a massive outbreak of mutant hysteria as he approved of Project: Wideawake and the mass use of Sentinels against mutant targets. He would also sell the design to hundreds of other nations, creating his own variants designed for the destruction of aliens rather than just mutants.
Some speculate Lex Luthor is the party responsible for releasing the previously-thought destroyed Ultron into the Kree Empire, armed with Sentinel technology. All for the explicit purposes of furthering Lex Luthor's xenocidal agenda.

That's crazy, though, right?
The present status of Sentinels worldwide is they are something akin to nukes. Many nations possess them and quite a few others desire them. Unfortunately, they are quite a bit more willing to deploy them than nuclear weapons. The smuggling of Sentinel technology worldwide is an arms trade that threatens the whole of existence since the machines are constantly evolving, ironically every bit as capable of adapting as the mutants they hunt.

Modern Sentinels are assisted by Bastion, a combination entity of the future "apex" Sentinel, Nimrod and the original Master Mold overriding intelligence. Unknown to the majority of the world, Bastion is a creation of Apokolips with Darkseid's major-dormo Desaad having designed it for the purposes of serving as an "engine of hate" on Earth-777.

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Re: The Combined DCU-Marvel Universe thread

Post by Charles Phipps » Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:43 pm

Earth-777 (2014)

The destruction of Darkseid during the Final Crisis resulted in reverberations across the space-time continuum. This event has since triggered the creation of the Fifth World where new gods shall arise to replace those of New Genesis and Apokolips. Already, individuals are searching for the so-called heir of Darkseid and there have been fights against fragments of the evil god's essence and incarnations of evil assuming its form.

The Flashpoint: Paradox triggered by Professor Zoom created an alternate timeline, called Earth-778 but the original world remains intact. Similar events to the on-going struggles of said world's heroes are occurring on Earth-777 but not so much as to be identical.

The fact the heroes of Earth-778 are far younger than the ones of Earth-777 and have drastically different backstories in some cases but identical ones in others complicates any one-to-one ratio. In general, the closer the history to the original world--the more likely said events have happened on both planets.

Notable occurrences include a newer and more brutal Black Canary following the events of
Prometheus' assault on Star City, a return of vampires to prominence, the recovery of Barbara Gordon, the death of Bruce Wayne's son Damien Wayne, the Gotham City branch of the Hellfire Club (known as The Court of Owls) made an ill-fated attempt to take over, and major conflict over the next incarnation of Camelot.

In truth, the Justice League is presently undergoing a massive reconstruction following the events of the conflict against Darkseid, the Black Lantern Corps, and several other conflicts. While they were able to prevent the destruction of many cities by Prometheus with the help of the Avengers, they failed completely to intervene in the Decimation as well as were slow to respond to Annihilation Wave.

The idea of a Justice League Unlimited has so far gone over like a ton of bricks with certain segments of the populace but is designed to give them the capacity to respond to all the hundreds of crises at once. Likewise, Tim Drake has started to believe it's important to train the next generation of heroes now less disasters like the ones which befell the students of the X-mansion follow M-Day occur again. His new version of Young Justice is considerably more militant than the Teen Titans have ever been and quite a bit more effective than they were.

The Avengers, meanwhile, are slowly rebuilding with The Avengers Academy serving as an alternative to the now-divided Xavier institutes. Likewise, the Fantastic Four have attempted to create their own society to change the world in the Future Foundation. The membership of Doctor Doom in this body has not reassured the other heroes of the world they are thinking clearly. Indeed, the hero community is greatly fractured and only a few figures like Captain Marvel are completely trusted by all sides.

It is ironic that, when the world's superheroes are more concerned about mutant causes than ever, the X-men are less enthusiastic about team-ups than ever before. The assassination of Charles Xavier by Cosmically-Empowered Cyclops has split the mutant community down the middle. Likewise, their actions during their possessions like drowning Wakanda and destroying Black Adam's reign in Khandaq have once more enflamed international tensions. Not even Genosha will open its doors to its former ruler in Magneto. The mutant race needs new leaders and now is the perfect time for voices to arise above the old.

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Re: The Combined DCU-Marvel Universe thread

Post by Charles Phipps » Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:06 pm

Phrozen wrote:I am just glad that Robinson retired Jack Knight before someone could do something horrible to him.

Also, who else would do something like that. Felix Faust wasn't around at that time. Also, it fits with the time period.
Yeah, having the story have a beginning, middle, and end was probably the best thing which could happen to Star Man.

I'm interested in what other articles you'd be willing to do too.

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Re: The Combined DCU-Marvel Universe thread

Post by EnigmaticOne » Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:29 pm

I'll have to think about this. Not really up to date on comics mayhem, for obvious reasons.
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Re: The Combined DCU-Marvel Universe thread

Post by Voltron64 » Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:44 pm

Charles Phipps wrote:
Some speculate Lex Luthor is the party responsible for releasing the previously-thought destroyed Ultron into the Kree Empire, armed with Sentinel technology. All for the explicit purposes of furthering Lex Luthor's xenocidal agenda.

That's crazy, though, right?
Alright, hopefully we're gonna see Luthor on intergalactic trial soon? :twisted:
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Re: The Combined DCU-Marvel Universe thread

Post by Charles Phipps » Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:48 pm

EnigmaticOne wrote:I'll have to think about this. Not really up to date on comics mayhem, for obvious reasons.
Eh, while we're "keeping up" it's better to have "classic" versions of the characters.

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Re: The Combined DCU-Marvel Universe thread

Post by Charles Phipps » Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:51 pm

Voltron64 wrote: Alright, hopefully we're gonna see Luthor on intergalactic trial soon? :twisted:
Given his collaboration with Darkseid, association with numerous intergalactic terrorists (Sinestro, Brainiac, and so on), as well as other actions -- he'd be found guilty on numerous counts. Someone should really bring him to the Shi'ar for Crimes against Sapience.

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