Suicide Squad

[GrayPumpkin]

collected edition, here i come!

Wooo Hooooo!

[Kit]

SUICIDE SQUAD FROM THE ASHES TradePaperback is on stands tomorrow, Wednesday, August 27.

Written by John Ostander; Art by Javier Pina, Robin Riggs and Jesus Saiz; Cover by John K. Snyder III
The Suicide Squad makes its triumphant return in this new volume collecting the recent miniseries. But how did team leader Rick Flag Jr. survive a ground-zero nuclear blast and return from the dead?

[Kit]

SUICIDE SQUAD #67 (BLACKEST NIGHT) is on stands tomorrow, Wednesday, January 6.

Written by John Ostrander and Gail Simone; Art by J. Calafiore; cover by Daniel LuVisi
Original SUICIDE SQUAD writer John Ostrander and Gail Simone resurrect The Suicide Squad as they take on BLACKEST NIGHT and the Secret Six! The Fiddler has risen from the dead, and he's targeting Deadshot and anyone who stands in his way. But someone else has targeted Deadshot – the Suicide Squad! Everything is about to hit the Wall (Amanda Waller, that is) – and this Wall hits back!

Continuing this month's one-issue revival of classic DC Universe titles, this epic story carries into January's SECRET SIX #17!

[Kit]

SUICIDE SQUAD TRADEPAPERBACK VOL 01 TRIAL BY FIRE is on stands tomorrow, Wednesday, February 9.

Written by JOHN OSTRANDER; Art by LUKE MCDONNELL, DAVE HUNT, BOB LEWIS and KARL KESEL; Cover by LUKE MCDONNELL and KARL KESEL
When Super-Villains get caught, it's up to the government to keep them in captivity. Amanda Waller, a tough-as-nails federal agent, has other plans. She's heading up Task Force X (a.k.a. The Suicide Squad) as an ultimatum to the world's biggest villains. Join her shady, near-impossible missions in the name of democracy, or rot in jail. And one other thing: Most operatives don't make it back alive!

This volume collects the first eight issues of SUICIDE SQUAD, along with a tale from SECRET ORIGINS #14.

[Kit]

They changed Waller?!!?

[ClassDunce]

They changed Waller?!!?

They're trying to make her look more like the actress that played her in the Green Lantern movie, personally I don't like it but I can't work up the outrage over it.

[Kit]

They changed Waller?!!?

They're trying to make her look more like the actress that played her in the Green Lantern movie,

Yeah, cuase that movie is drawing people to DC. Sigh.

personally I don't like it but I can't work up the outrage over it.

I'm just noticing that the new 52 has no room for handicapped heroes or overweight heroes.

[saint_matthew]

I'm just noticing that the new 52 has no room for handicapped heroes or overweight heroes.

No offense kit, but isn't it a little to early to say that? We don't even have the first issues of all 52 comics yet. Waller was not large, she was not over weight, she was bordering on morbidly obese. She was also a good bit older. Don't mistake this Waller for that Waller, the two are not the same character. Same goes for the disabled bit... Just because Babs is no longer in a wheel-chair doesn't mean there is no room for handicapped heroes in the new DCU. Its kind of like saying there is no space for characters with pyrokenisis in the new DC because Effigy didn't seem to make it thru the reboot.

Frankly, i'd say the DC has space for handicapped people, after all that let Liefeld draw Hawk & Dove

But seriously, lets atleast wait until the entire line is represented before we make any judgements about its contents... Because the new DC line up has much bigger problems, such as so far not being overly good in comparision to the previous DCU.

[Kit]

I'm just noticing that the new 52 has no room for handicapped heroes or overweight heroes.

No offense kit, but isn't it a little to early to say that? We don't even have the first issues of all 52 comics yet. Waller was not large, she was not over weight, she was bordering on morbidly obese. She was also a good bit older. Don't mistake this Waller for that Waller, the two are not the same character. Same goes for the disabled bit... Just because Babs is no longer in a wheel-chair doesn't mean there is no room for handicapped heroes in the new DCU. Its kind of like saying there is no space for characters with pyrokenisis in the new DC because Effigy didn't seem to make it thru the reboot.

Frankly, i'd say the DC has space for handicapped people, after all that let Liefeld draw Hawk & Dove

But seriously, lets atleast wait until the entire line is represented before we make any judgements about its contents... Because the new DC line up has much bigger problems, such as so far not being overly good in comparision to the previous DCU.

Fair point.

[ClassDunce]

Honestly in my mind, Waller is always going to be more CCH Pounder than Angela Basset. When I was a social worker, and even here at the college now, I've worked with plenty of women who remind me of Waller so she was always such a believable character for me. I would prefer having the original Waller back but I'm not going to let myself get worked up over it.

On the other hand with what they've done to Barbara Gordan I have to try not to think about it at all. Oracle was such a strong character and I can't help but feel that they've lessened her with the new 52. A lot of people don't agree with me on that but that's just how I feel.

[greycrusader]

I'm just noticing that the new 52 has no room for handicapped heroes or overweight heroes.

No offense kit, but isn't it a little to early to say that? We don't even have the first issues of all 52 comics yet. Waller was not large, she was not over weight, she was bordering on morbidly obese. She was also a good bit older. Don't mistake this Waller for that Waller, the two are not the same character. Same goes for the disabled bit... Just because Babs is no longer in a wheel-chair doesn't mean there is no room for handicapped heroes in the new DCU. Its kind of like saying there is no space for characters with pyrokenisis in the new DC because Effigy didn't seem to make it thru the reboot.

Frankly, i'd say the DC has space for handicapped people, after all that let Liefeld draw Hawk & Dove

But seriously, lets atleast wait until the entire line is represented before we make any judgements about its contents... Because the new DC line up has much bigger problems, such as so far not being overly good in comparision to the previous DCU.

The problem is the new Waller doesn't even resemble Angela Bassett, who is a well-muscled woman in her early fifties; she instead looks more like Halle Berry. She doesn't look formidable, intimidating, or even professional (I've seen pics of Ms. Bassett from the film, and she is wearing button down suits, not cleavage revealing blouses).

Yes, John Ostrander did slim down Waller a bit when he wrote a storyline that picked up after she served time in prison for her misdeeds, then took a more active role in a reformed Suicide Squad, but he didn't lose the essence of the character.

I really don't think we'll see any major characters-characters who are the focus of stories-who are disabled or overweight/obese in the new DCU. It wouldn't be hip and marketable and attractive to the new readers. Still, I have to give them credit for having several titles featuring minority heroes, especially Batwing, which is set in Africa. A title with an almost entirely nonwhite cast is a big move for a mainstream publisher.

All my best.

[danelsan]

*adds more to the seemingly evergrowing list of bad decisions related to the reboot*
Besides Waller, I think Harley's new look also sucks. At least it is not as bad as the Arkham City game version...

[saint_matthew]

The problem is the new Waller doesn't even resemble Angela Bassett, who is a well-muscled woman in her early fifties; she instead looks more like Halle Berry.

i don't know where people got the idea that she was meant to look like Angela Bassett. I'm thinking this might be like the DC pants initiative all over again; where people say a thing & then other people hear it & mistake it for an official answer.

She doesn't look formidable, intimidating, or even professional (I've seen pics of Ms. Bassett from the film, and she is wearing button down suits, not cleavage revealing blouses).

Um, why would she look like any of those things? Form follows function, not the other way round... I mean if i were head of operations for a government agency where i could send you to your summary execution, i could do that wearing a slutty clown suit & your belief that i didn't look "formidable, intimidating, or even professional," wouldn't really change the fact that you'd be executed.

Yes, John Ostrander did slim down Waller a bit when he wrote a storyline that picked up after she served time in prison for her misdeeds, then took a more active role in a reformed Suicide Squad, but he didn't lose the essence of the character.

This didn't lose the essense of the character either: she still seems to be ballsy, malicious & tough as nails. The only thing she lost was about 3 decades & a lot of weight.

[greycrusader]

Actually, I think they DID lose the essence of the character; Amanada Waller was ruthless and pragmatic, she would sacrifice agents for what she saw as the missions' success BUT she never had her own operatives kidnapped, tortured, and then executed if they broke under torture.

Also, while I realize a Halle Berry lookalike in a peek-a-boo blouse can be portrayed as calculating, manipulitive, and sociopathic just as well as an older woman in a business suit, this again degrades the special role of the character. Amanda Waller stood out as a central character who did not look like every cookie-cutter heroine. Furthermore, her age and physique reflected her life experiences in the old DCU, so obviously "the Wall's" history is altered in the DCnU, she's not just "five years younger". I'd put it on the mark she's 20-30 yrs younger.

A lithe sexpot who is a cold-hearted, deceptive witch-not exactly a novel concept in modern comics.

Also: Harley's personality has been distorted and she now looks stripperific, Deadshot's character development is apparently gone and the armored costume makes him look like a turtle, and King Shark's new "hammerhead" look is just stupid.

Nope-picked up every other iteration of the SS title, but this one is not on my pull list.

All my best.

[saint_matthew]

Actually, I think they DID lose the essence of the character; Amanada Waller was ruthless and pragmatic, she would sacrifice agents for what she saw as the missions' success BUT she never had her own operatives kidnapped, tortured, and then executed if they broke under torture.

We'll have to see. Personally i didn't think she was all that interesting character in the old DC, i'm just as non plussed wuth the character in the new DC.

A lithe sexpot who is a cold-hearted, deceptive witch-not exactly a novel concept in modern comics.

Neither is an african american morbidly obese master manipulator. There are no new stories, just new itterations.

Also: Harley's personality has been distorted and she now looks stripperific, Deadshot's character development is apparently gone and the armored costume makes him look like a turtle

Yeah, can't disagree with you on that. But to me this comic looks to be a maladjusted teens, anti-authority masturbationary revenge fantasy... Lobo on crack if you will. I honestly can't think of any other audience for this book.

and King Shark's new "hammerhead" look is just stupid.

Okay that one i take offense to... Does this mean you won't like the look of Hammerhead; my underwater powerhouse shark man?

Nope-picked up every other iteration of the SS title, but this one is not on my pull list.

Yeah this one is on the Man of War list under the words "Good Lord DC what were you thinking?"