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Postby Thorpacolypse » Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:17 pm

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Jalinth wrote:For something a bit off the wall, how about Catwoman/Venom? Eddie Brock was a friend of Peter, and the Cat & Bat have been known to have some... tension. :)

That never actually occured to me. I was originally thinking Venom would be Harvey Dent, but that's quite a good idea as well.

Of course, if I do Carnage as well then I can do both... Hmm...


How about a Doc Oc/Riddler combo? And of course, a Penguin/Vulture. Scarecrow/Mysterio might work as well. Actually, the more you look at it, the more similar their rogue's galleries are. Many of the same family of animal totems and psyches.

Rhino/Killer Croc has potential, too, I think. And of course, Sandface. :)
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Postby Kreuzritter » Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:32 pm

i do have a request for jmart.

simply put

Anakin Skywalker of planet Tatooine.

You have the ability to spread great fear.

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Postby Thorpacolypse » Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:51 pm

Boy, a guy takes a couple of nights off and he gets SCOOPED! Even though Taliesin beat me to him, I just got this new item ready to go yesterday so I am stocking it now on Aisle 3.

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Truth, justice and the batsh** crazy, paranoid delusional way.

IRON PATRIOT (NORMAN OSBORN)
PL:
12 (215 pp) – OPL: 12; DPL: 12

ABILITIES: STR: 36 [26] [12] (+13/+8/+1) DEX: 24 [12] (+7/+1) CON: 22 [10] (+6/0) INT: 25 [18] (+7/+4) WIS: 12 (+1) CHA: 14 (+2)

SKILLS: Bluff 8 (+10), Climb (+13), Computers 8 (+15), Concentration (+1), Craft [Chemical] 8 (+15), Craft [Electronic] 8 (+15) [Skill Mastery], Craft [Mechanical] 8 (+15) [Skill Mastery], Diplomacy 6 (+8) [Connected], Disguise (+2), Escape Artist (+7), Gather Info 10 (+12) [Contacts, Well-Informed], Handle Animal (+2), Intimidate 10 (+12) [Skill Mastery, Startle], Knowledge [Business] 6 (+13), Knowledge [Current Event] 4 (+11), Knowledge [Technology] 8 (+15) [Inventor, Skill Mastery], Notice 6 (+7), Search (+7), Sense Motive 8 (+9), Stealth (+7), Survival (+1), Swim (+13),

FEATS: All-out Attack, Attack Specialization (1) [Pumpkin Bombs], Benefit (2) [Status - Director of H.A.M.M.E.R, Wealth], Connected, Contacts, Dodge Focus (1), Eidetic Memory, Favored Environment (4) [+2 Attack. +2 Dodge when flying], Inventor, Move-by Action, Power Attack, Rage (1), Skill Mastery (1) (Craft: Electronic, Craft: Mechanical, Intimidate, Knowledge: Technology), Startle, Well-Informed

POWERS:
Green Goblin Enhancements (Container [55pp]) [11]
Enhanced Strength (14pp) [14]
Enhanced Constitution (12pp) [12]
Enhanced Dexterity (12pp) [12]
Enhanced Intelligence (7pp) [7]
Regeneration (Recovery Bonus +2 [2pp]) [2]
Regeneration (Recovery Rate [8pp])
Bruised 1/round [1]
Injured 1/1 minute [3]
Disabled 1/hour [2]
PF: Diehard, Persistent [2]

Iron Man Extremis Armor (Device, Hard to Lose, PF: Restricted x2 [Norman Osborn]; 85pp traits; [70pp]) [17]
Enhanced Strength (10pp) [10]
Repulsor Rays (Blast, Array [28pp]) [14] - DC:29:tough
AP: Rocket Blast (Ballistic Blast, Extra: Targeted Area Explosion [1pp]) [9] - DC:24:tough
AP: Super Senses (Extended Vision, Infravision, Ultravision, Radio, Player/GM picks others with GM approval [1pp])
AP: Datalink (1pp) [9]
Shield (2pp) [2]
Protection (Extra: Impervious [18pp]) [9]
Flight (Dynamic Array [12pp array]; 13pp) [6]
DAP: Super-Strength (2pp) [6]
Immunity (Life Support [9pp]) [9]


COMBAT: Base Attack +8, Melee +8, Ranged +8, Flying Melee +10, Flying Ranged +10, Grapple +16, Flying Grapple +18, Armor Flying Grapple +23 [Unarmed +6 (Bruise); Armor Unarmed +13 (Bruise); Repulsor Blast +14 (Bruise); Rocket Blast +8 (Lethal)]; Defense 15 (12 flat-footed, 17 in Armor, 19 in Armor Flying); Init +7; Knockback -3 (-12 in Armor)

SAVES: Toughness +6 (+6 flat-footed, +15 in Armor, +15 flat-footed in Armor, +9 Impervious in Armor), Fortitude +7, Reflex +8, Will +3

DRAWBACKS:

Abilities 18 + Skills 25 (100 ranks) + Feats 19 + Powers 125 + Combat 24 + Saves 4 – Drawbacks 0 = 215 / 215

Comments: OK, so when I was finishing Secret Invasion on the whole turn towards the Dark Reign started, I was like “what?!?!?” due to my disappointment with the ending. I was bound and determined to NOT like the whole new arc and poo-poo the whole “push” of Norman Osborn as the new It Guy A-list villain of the Marvel U.

Then I read the Dark Reign one-shot. Then I begrudgingly read the first issue of Dark Avengers at the behest of my local comic shop dude.

I sit corrected.

It has been very good. Despite some of the general Marvel “woe are the heroes” overtones, it seems to have an old school feel to it, like when Lex Luthor was president. Hmmmm, maybe that’s why it feels familiar…But I digress. The whole writing of the meeting of the Dark Illuminati, the Dark Avengers, Obsorn getting his psychotic little fingers in everything like a Dark Nick Fury, has been handled well so far. It all sets up for a big return to glory for Fury, Iron Man, and hopefully another elevation for Spidey as well as letting them put Osborn in a position to be a big time player for a while, even though I expect his flameout to be spectacular when it happens.

As part of his ascension, he has set up his own team of Avengers and he has taken the lead role as a Captain America/Iron Man amalgam called the Iron Patriot. Since he has full control of Starktech and all of Tony’s old suits, it wasn’t hard for him to make this move. They haven’t gotten to much action with the group yet, so I just slapped a generic Battlesuit powerset on a trimmed version of him as Green Goblin, but you know me, I’ll update it once I know more. I find it funny I only came 3pp off Taliesin's build and I SWEAR TO ELVIS that I finished it yesterday on my lunch before seeing his before anyone thinks I'm a hack. I mean, I AM a hack, but in this case, we were just having a Marconi/Tesla moment.

Despite being batsh*t crazy, Norman has been quite effective as an inventor and super villain in the past and now with all kinds of resrouces at his disposal, he should be able to wreak a lot of havoc for as long as the editors feel like it's fun.
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Postby Thorpacolypse » Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:02 pm

Getting stocked on Aisle 3 is another new version of a J-Mart Favorite. This one is a definite CAN'T MISS Special!

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It's just so wrong, it's right.

HAWKEYE III (BULLSEYE)
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10 (150 pp) – OPL: 10; DPL: 10

ABILITIES: STR: 18 [14] (+4/+2) DEX: 22 (+6) CON: 16 (+3) INT: 12 (+1) WIS: 14 (+2) CHA: 12 (+1)

SKILLS: Acrobatics 4 (+10), Bluff 7 (+8), Climb (+2), Concentration (+2), Diplomacy (+1), Disable Device 6 (+7), Disguise (+1), Escape Artist 4 (+10), Gather Info 7 (+8), Handle Animal (+1), Intimidate 9 (+10) [Startle], Knowledge [Streetwise] 7 (+8), Notice 6 (+8), Search (+1), Sense Motive 8 (+10), Stealth 6 (+12), Survival (+2), Swim (+2)

FEATS: All-out Attack, Attack Focus (Ranged) (2), Benefit (1) [Avengers Clearance], Defensive Attack, Defensive Roll (2), Diehard, Dodge Focus (4), Eagle Eyes, Equipment (2), Improved Aim, Improved Critical (5) [Thrown Weapons x4, Bow], Improved Initiative (1), Improved Ranged Disarm, Power Attack, Precise Shot (2), Quick Draw (1), Ranged Pin, Startle, Takedown Attack (1), Throwing Mastery (5), Tough (1), Ultimate Effort (1) [Ultimate Aim]

POWERS:
Adamantium Spinal Reinforcements (Density; Extra: Duration [Continuous], Flaw: Permanent, PF: Innate [7pp]) [2]

Str +4, Protection +1, Mass x1.5
Hawkeye's Bow and Arrows (Device, Easy to Lose [20pp traits]; 12pp) [4]
Blast (Extra: Auto-Fire [18pp]) [6] - DC:21:tough
AP: Blast (Extra: Penetrating [1pp]) [6] - DC:21:tough
AP: Stun (Extra: Ranged [1pp]) [6] - DC:16:fort


EQUIPMENT:
(10ep)

Costume (Protection [1ep]) [1]
Cell Phone (1ep)
Arsenal (8ep):
Light Pistol (6ep) [3]
Shuriken (1ep) [1] - DC:21:tough
Fake Tooth (1ep),

COMBAT: Base Attack +12, Melee +12, Ranged +14, Grapple +16 [Unarmed +4 (Bruise); Thrown Items +5, 16-20 Critical (Lethal); Shuriken +6, Auto-Fire, 16-20 Critical (Lethal); Bow +6, Auto-Fire, 19-20 Critical (Lethal)]; Defense 22 (14 flat-footed); Init +10; Knockback -4

SAVES: Toughness +8 (+6 flat-footed), Fortitude +6, Reflex +10, Will +3

DRAWBACKS:

Abilities 30 + Skills 16 (64 ranks) + Feats 37 + Powers 19 + Combat 40 + Saves 8 – Drawbacks 0 = 150 / 150

Comments: A little more Dark Avengers love with one of my favorite characters, the current Hawkeye who is really Bullseye. Since Obsorn has taken over as the main man in the Marvel U, he has formed his own Avengers team and stocked it with some of his former Thunderbolts team and other characters of dubious background, like Noh-Varr as the new Captain Marvel, Moonstone as Ms. Marvel, Ares, and suprisingly, but really too much, another batsh** crazy kindred spirit in The Sentry.

Bullseye is now operating as Hawkeye which has Clint Barton fit to be tied, so much so that he’s ready to fight them now as opposed to waiting for them to show their true colors, which will probably not go well for the New Avengers, but hey, bad decisions by heroes usually make for good drama in the long run!

They haven’t really shown much of anything yet with the Dark Avengers so I went with a pretty base array for the Hawkeye Bow, and if he starts using the trick arrows, I’ll alter the build and add them in. But since it’s Bullseye, I doubt he uses much finesse. He’ll just be trying to shoot people through the head, and most likely succeeding at an alarming rate. But I did give him some blunt Stun arrows just in case they need a hostage.
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Postby Thorpacolypse » Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:12 pm

Kreuzritter wrote:i do have a request for jmart.

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Oh dear Geek God in Geek Heaven. That's beautiful.

Yes...yes, we will complete this task. I got about 900 pp with his name on it... :shock: :twisted:

This could lead to all kinds of new ring bearers for the Thorpacoverse as we get ready for the War of Light. Hmmm...
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Postby KnightDisciple » Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:47 pm

Is there an ability in M&M that, if ranked high enough, comes out to "You lose"?
Because, really, Vader with a yellow ring pretty much becomes that; it's like OWoD Cain: if you fight him, you lose. :)

Ok, maybe not, but still. I would say that, personally, I think he's a toss up between Yellow and Red. He causes a lot of fear, but he has a lot of anger. Unless there's a Hate ring now; I've not been following DC that closely...
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Postby Thorpacolypse » Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:49 pm

Told you all I'd been plotting... :wink:

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White Menace in Metropolis – Part 1

Location:
Metropolis, Delaware

Time: Approximately 1:30 pm, Tuesday, give or take a month after the last installment of Dead in America

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“THANK YOU, SUPERMAN! WE LOVE YOU, SUPERMAN!” the throngs of children from Sunny Day Preschool shouted as the Man of Steel flew off into the Metropolis sky.

“Take care, kids and be good!” he exhorted as he turned and flew off slowly, smiling and waving at his adoring fans all the while. I really need to make time to do that more often, he thought as he reflected on his visit with the children. I get so caught up in crime fighting that sometimes I forget that it doesn’t always take throwing a meteor into space or beating up a monster to make the world a better place, all it takes is smiling at a 4-year-old who is wearing a t-shirt with your insignia on it. But I need to get back to the Planet before Perry starts asking Lois too many questions.

As he flew out of sight of the kids, his state of satisfaction was broken by his super hearing picking up screams, car horns blasting and what sounded like several car crashes. Increasing his speed, he changed direction towards the sounds and within a few seconds he came upon a scene that would be out of place for most places, but far too commonplace for his adopted home city. In the middle of the street was a tall white humanoid monster roaring at the panicked, fleeing crowd and making its way toward a woman who was trying desperately to get out of her wrecked car. Fortunately, the beast wasn’t looking in her direction at the time. It kept looking around and seemed to be scanning the area as if it was looking for something.

Then again, sometimes it DOES take beating up a monster to make the world a better place…thought the Man of Steel as he swooped down and landed between the beast and its potential victim. But I always have to give them the benefit of the doubt, so…

“OK, big fella, let’s calm down,” he said in a calm, but firm tone to the beast looming before him. The monster was over 10 feet tall, with a thick muscular body covered in white fur, and sported large fangs and claws. “I’m Superman, I’d like to help you.”

The creature paused for a brief second then said softly in a deep, guttural voice, “Wen-di-go…”

“Wendigo?” Superman repeated.

“WEN-DI-GO!!!” the creature shouted as it suddenly lunged at the man of steel and slashed at him with its razor sharp claws. He winced as they tore into the skin of his shoulder and he saw blood squirt from the wound. Great Rao, he thought as he gathered himself, what is this thing? How can it be so powerful? I need to end this quickly before he hurts anyone else…

Ignoring the pain, he drew back and unleashed a haymaker with his right hand, knocking the beast back a step, but not dropping him. This is not good, the Last Son of Krypton thought. He can dish it out and take it. I may be in for a real fight here.

The beast again lunged at Superman, but he was able to block the blow and followed up with a right uppercut that sent the beast flying back into a building across the street. As Superman prepared to press his attack again, he heard more screams from the people in the area. He looked around to see at least a dozen more creatures similar to the Wendigo moving into the area, attacking people and demolishing cars and any other property in their path. He quickly scanned the city and felt a chill go down his spine as he saw dozens more Wendigo all across the city wreaking widespread panic. Oh no, he thought as he saw 4-5 of the creatures heading directly towards the Daily Planet. Lois…

As he took a wicked shot from the Wendigo, he knew that there was no way he would be handle a hundred of these things on his own, and even if he could, there was definitely no way he could do it before the beasts killed untold numbers of people and did millions of dollars in damages.

Only one thing to do, he thought. I don’t know if the new team is ready for this yet, but ready or not, I have to have the help. He quickly tapped his JLA commlink. “J’onn, I have a situation. I need as much help as you can get me, NOW.”

“Read you loud and clear, Superman,” the Martian Manhunter responded as he elongated his arms and fingers to reach panels and switches across the monitor board at the Justice League Watchtower. “Switching camera views to Metropolis and…what the…?”

The new chairperson of the JLA was standing behind J’onn, flanked by Wonder Woman, Jack Hawksmoor and Green Lantern John Stewart. Within a second of seeing the carnage, he immediately took charge of the situation as those that knew him expected he would.

“Diana, Jack and I will teleport down immediately to help Superman,” Cyclops said confidently. “Get a priority alert out to all current members, as well as Nick Fury, the X-Men and the US Avengers. And if you can raise Luke Cage’s new team, call them in, too. And get someone to come relieve you at monitor duty ASAP, we’ll need you as well.”

“Scott, the League has handled situations like this on our own before,” Wonder Woman said as they all ran over to the teleporting bay. “Is there really a need for all these other people to get involved?”

“Absolutely, Wonder Woman,” he replied as he motioned to J’onn to send them down. “For one thing, these are Wendigos. Just one of these things is able to go toe-to-toe with The Hulk and we’re looking at a hundred of them at least. Not to mention the fact that they apparently popped up in Metropolis out of nowhere when they normally roam the Canadian wilderness. Kind of hard to believe they migrated all the way here from Canada and no one knew about it before now. We need to get this contained fast and figure out who’s behind this as quickly as possible before lives are lost and before more of them show up.”

“And secondly, I left the X-Men, for now anyway, and came here at Superman and Captain America’s request to help bring the superhero community back together. And if we keep functioning our like we did before; each hero or team in their own little world, we’ll never get there. We need be part of the bigger team if we’re to be trusted by the public and/or each other again.”

“Understood, Cyclops,” Wonder Woman said with a smile. As the teleporter kicked in, she thought, He is as good as Clark said. Within a second they appeared in the middle of Metropolis a few feet away from Superman.

“Help has arrived, Superman!” Jack Hawksmoor said to the Man of Steel as he gestured and the city street itself seemed to come alive and flung itself at a group of Wendigos as a wave of concrete and steel. The barrage sent one of the Wendigos flying, but the others seemed more annoyed by it than anything, and it definitely drew their attention to the newly arrived heroes.

“And fortunately, more is coming ASAP,” Jack continued as he prepared to take evasive action. “We’ll take these bastards down.”

“Thanks, but please, remember your language, Jack,” Superman said as he sent the Wendigo flying with a wicked uppercut. “You’re Justice League now. I have to go secure another part of the city, hold the line.”

As Wonder Woman, John Stewart and Cyclops joined the fray, Superman flew off at top speed towards the Daily Planet.

To be continued...

(Really it is! I’m going to keep up this time! :D )

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Set Up – Superman and the Wendigo are in melee range of each other as this starts and neither is surprised. However, I will give the Wendigo a free shot at Supes to set this off right. This GM Fiat gives Superman another HP, giving him 5 to start out the battle. Trust me, he’ll need them. The Wendigo all-out/power attacks for 3, hitting with an adjusted 20. I am going to rule that the Wendigos are considered mystical creatures so Superman’s Impervious is gone. He has to save at 36, and he fails by 1 to take a bruised/injured since the Wendigos are using lethal damage as one would expect. Now we’ll go to initiative.

Initiative – Superman 23, Wendigo 11. Minion rule is in effect for the PL10 Wendigos mixed in with the PL12 “bosses”.

Round 1 – Superman all-out/power attacks the Wendigo for 3. He hits with an adjusted 32. The Wendigo has to save at 36, he gets a 27 to take a bruise and stunned. We’ll fiat to shake off the stun, giving Superman another HP. The Wendigo AA/PA for 5 again, and misses.

Status – Superman bruised/injured, 6 HP; Wendigo bruised.

Round 2 – Superman AA/PA for 3 again and hits. The Wendigo blows the save badly, we’ll fiat to re-roll and this time he fails the DC36 by 11 to be staggered and stunned. No fiat this time.

Status – Superman bruised/injured, 7 HP; Wendigo bruised, staggered and stunned.

Round 3 – At this point Superman will notice the other Wendigos coming into view. He will survey the city as a move action (since he has to switch his array around as well, which I believe is actually a free action, but seems cheap to me in this situation) and call for help as a free action. He will surge for another move action to fly over and attack the still moving Wendigo and AA/PA for 5, and he hits with an adjusted 26. The Wendigo has to save at a whopping 38. He blows the save by 3 and is bruised again. He’ll AA/PA with his claws again for 5 and hits. Superman has to save at 36 and he gets a 28. He’ll take the bruised/injured and stunned. The other Wendigos do not engage Superman yet and I’ll say it takes the JL a couple rounds to teleport in.

Status – Superman bruised/injured x2, stunned, 6 HP; Wendigo bruised x2, staggered.

Round 4 – Superman burns an HP to shake off the stun, and AA/PA for 5 to hit easily with a 23. The Wendigo again has a DC38 save, he blows it by 10 and with the 2nd staggered for the Wendigo, he's out. Again, the other Wendigos are busy wreaking havoc in the city.

Status – Superman bruised/injured x2, 5 HP; Wendigo bruised x2, unconscious.

Round 5 – I’m going to handle the rest of the heroes against the Wendigos in later installments, but I need a segue to move on, so I will have Jack Hawksmoor go against some of the Wendigos for one round to get that segue. Initiative – Hawksmoor 18, Wendigos 17. Superman takes off for the Daily Planet. Hawksmoor uses his Targeted Area blast which I’ll say can get 5 Wendigos. 2 make the Reflex save, 3 fail. The 2 that made their Ref save pass their Toughness save of 21 easily. 2 of the others make their save of 26. One fails and since I am considering the majority of these Minions, he drops. The response from the Wendigos will wait until the next segment...

Summary – That will do it for this portion of the big fight. Supes was Supes and I think I am going to have fun with Jack during his feature. And hopefully the builds I plan to use will work well against the Wendigos, but I guess we’ll see. Part 2 coming shortly.
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Postby JoshuaDunlow » Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:03 pm

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Postby Sand Fox » Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:24 pm

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Kreuzritter wrote:i do have a request for jmart.

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Oh dear Geek God in Geek Heaven. That's beautiful.

Yes...yes, we will complete this task. I got about 900 pp with his name on it... :shock: :twisted:

This could lead to all kinds of new ring bearers for the Thorpacoverse as we get ready for the War of Light. Hmmm...


Well, Sir Thorpacolypse, I may not be a member of the J-Mart, however, I would like to create a Power Ring holding Darth Vader. It would be a nightmare come true for Empire’s enemies.

Sincerely, Sand Fox
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Postby MorningKnight » Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:26 pm

Yellow Lantern Vader?

*yesgasm*

I can't wait for Ronin vs. Hawkeye III.

Can't. Wait.

'Cuz I loves me teh Clint Barton!
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Postby MorningKnight » Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:29 pm

Thorpocalypse - Cyclops as JLA chairperson?

I weep for joy.
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Postby Thorpacolypse » Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:29 pm

Sand Fox wrote:
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Kreuzritter wrote:i do have a request for jmart.

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Oh dear Geek God in Geek Heaven. That's beautiful.

Yes...yes, we will complete this task. I got about 900 pp with his name on it... :shock: :twisted:

This could lead to all kinds of new ring bearers for the Thorpacoverse as we get ready for the War of Light. Hmmm...


Well, Sir Thorpacolypse, I may not be a member of the J-Mart, however, I would like to create a Power Ring holding Darth Vader. It would be a nightmare come true for Empire’s enemies.

Sincerely, Sand Fox


Have it at my good man!
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Postby Sand Fox » Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:28 pm

Thorpacolypse wrote:
Sand Fox wrote:
Thorpacolypse wrote:
Kreuzritter wrote:i do have a request for jmart.

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Welcome to the Sinestro Corps.[/i][/b]


Oh dear Geek God in Geek Heaven. That's beautiful.

Yes...yes, we will complete this task. I got about 900 pp with his name on it... :shock: :twisted:

This could lead to all kinds of new ring bearers for the Thorpacoverse as we get ready for the War of Light. Hmmm...


Well, Sir Thorpacolypse, I may not be a member of the J-Mart, however, I would like to create a Power Ring holding Darth Vader. It would be a nightmare come true for Empire’s enemies.

Sincerely, Sand Fox


Have it at my good man!


How magnanimous of you, oh Great One. I will try post him tonight.

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Postby Ecalsneerg » Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:30 am

Thorpacolypse wrote:“Diana, Jack and I will teleport down immediately to help Superman,” Cyclops said confidently.

The awesomeness... it makes so much sense... TOO MUCH WIN.

I bet Wolverine was pissed off he's not on this team and Cyclops is. :wink:
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Postby Ecalsneerg » Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:51 am

Thorpacolypse wrote:How about a Doc Oc/Riddler combo? And of course, a Penguin/Vulture. Scarecrow/Mysterio might work as well. Actually, the more you look at it, the more similar their rogue's galleries are. Many of the same family of animal totems and psyches.

Rhino/Killer Croc has potential, too, I think. And of course, Sandface. :)

If I do this for you, I deserve an aisle for it. Spider-Gotham takes work :P

These PLs might end up surprisingly high, simply because I want Spider-Wayne to have all of Spidey's powers, most of Year One Batman's training, as well as web-shooters and half-decent equipment. I'm not fitting it into 180 pp particularly well, but I can actually see a super-powered Batman being PL 12.
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