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Re: The Combined DCU-Marvel Universe thread

Post by Libra » Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:43 pm

At least that description cannot be applied to the articles themselves, which I happen to think are rather tidy! :mrgreen:
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Re: The Combined DCU-Marvel Universe thread

Post by Neo-Paladin » Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:45 pm

Neat, one might even say :D

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Re: The Combined DCU-Marvel Universe thread

Post by Libra » Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:49 pm

Well yes, but 'NEAT!' works better as an exclamation, rather than as part of a sentance. :mrgreen:
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Re: The Combined DCU-Marvel Universe thread

Post by Voltron64 » Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:15 pm

Black Lantern Saga: An event even more devastating given the staggering number of deceased friends and relatives in the Marvel Universe.

Thanks to the assistance of Spiderman, who had already defeated the OBSCENE caricatures of his Aunt and Uncle through the power of his emotions, Captain Boomerrang Junior was freed from Nekron's influence (which had a mind-control element the emotionally conflicted young man couldn't resist). Likewise, Firestorm was prevented from killing Gehenna by the timely intervention of Captain America.

Yes, in the Combined Universe the "Big Damn Heroes" have the edge. Doctor Doom received a ring of greed, Captain America a ring of hope, the Punisher received a ring of rage, Spiderman a ring of willpower, and Moon Knight a ring of fear. Mary Jane Watson Parker also joined in the fight against Nekron, gaining the brief power of Star Saphire.

Spiderman said she had the tamest costume there and it was STILL outrageously hot.
I bet. :D
Cancerverse: A reality totally corrupted by the power of Shuma-Gortath and other "Great Old Ones" was something that the Green Lantern Corps was as unprepared for as anyone else. Hal Jordan's stubborn refusal to kill even in the face of this horror caused many a rift between them.

Likewise, the "corrupted" versions of the Green Lantern Corps proved very formidable. In the end, the destruction of the Cancerverse universe happened in spite of many DC heroes efforts. Nevertheless, Richard Ryder and a number of heroes survived who normally wouldn't have.

Thanos is BELIEVED to have been killed but, in fact, was rescued by Nekron. Hilariously, Death finally sat down and talked with Thanos and pointed out the fact that she didn't NEED anyone to massacre people in her name and that "Mistress Death" was largely a product of his own delusions.

Thanos attempted to kill her then, one of the most ridiculously one sided battles in history. Death, of course, just blocked his attack with her cute umbrella.
What an idiot. Guess what Galactus said about Thanos subconsciously wanting to lose is true.
Civil War: A much lower-key event in this universe. The Justice League of America's refusal to cooperate with the government lead to Cadmus being briefly restructured to attack them in a manner similar to the Justice League Unlimited cartoon. The Registration Act, however, was ironically a fairly innocuous bill which was subverted by Anti-Meta forces in the government (specifically the forces behind Weapon-X and Checkmate).

The events of Max Lord's clone, OMAC, the attack on Paradise Island, and other horrors were traced squarely back to this event. Iron Man, in this universe, actually joined the cause explicitly for the purposes of running interference. It was his hope by working with the government that he would be able to dismantle these groups. Unfortunately, he hadn't counted on one of his major supporters being a Skrull (in this case, the Hank Pym Skrull created a "Thor-Android" from the remnants of Amazo and then programmed it to try and murder heroes in order to drive a wedge between them).

While it left a bad taste in everyone's mouth, in truth Reed Richards and Tony Stark managed to have large numbers of Weapon-X and its supporters arrested in the aftermath of the Civil War event. They also set guidelines and precedents for how vigilantes were allowed to operate. They also managed to "deputize" virtually every superhero in the United States who wasn't a member of the Justice League or Avengers.

The staggering irony was that the events of Avengers Disassembled had left Captain America and Iron Man at loggerheads when they normally would have been able to solve the problem without difficulty. Captain America could only see the human rights violations and Iron Man could only see the need to fix the government when normally, both would have cooperated to do both.

In this universe, it was not the Negative Zone where the prison was constructed but the Phantom Zone. It worked out about as well (Annihilus still attacked the Positive Matter Universe, belying his claim that the Positive Matter Universe was "invading" his).
Why do I have a feeling these Weapon X-types honestly should've gotten something along the lines of being taken into a dark alley and shot in the head rather than jailtime?
Dark Reign: While blocked from becoming President of the United States, Lex Luthor had funded countless expeditions to warp the fabric of the American dream. One of these included a almost complete white-washing of Norman Osbourne's record and the installation of him as Assistant Director of SHIELD (in charge of North America). This lead to widespread protests and Norman was never as popular as he appeared to be, roughly coming across as a Lex Luthor-influenced crony from the beginning. What little political capital Luthor had left after the event was removed with Norman's final breakdown.

The Justice League of America managed to avoid the worst of it due to the fact that the actual Max Lord, rescued by the Runaways of all people, was able to reinstate their international charter. While Director Osbourne did his absolute best to impede their efforts in the United States, he was unable to do anything about their popularity. The Question, Barbara Gordon, the Birds of Prey, Hawkeye, the Outsiders, Daredevil, Manhunter, and Moon Knight formed an oddball alliance meant to undermine his regime whenever possible and funnel people away from his Thunderbolts project. Likewise, the team managed to gather enough evidence to not only remove Norman Osbourne from power but permanently destroy his financial empire.

While Norman was still able to attack New Asgard in Oklahoma, he was forced to do so with a collection of Doctor Doom-constructed robots, Thunderbolts crooks, Human Decoy Model Droids, and mercenaries he'd hired during his tenure as Director. In short, the attack was a complete disaster and actually managed to capture a substantial population of North America's supercriminal population in one go.
Good riddance, I also imagine that Norman sees his abusive father in his Goblin persona too.
Fifty-Two: Black Adam would have been stopped much earlier if not for the events in Asgard and the Disassembling of the Avengers. The population of Biayala was not completely annihilated, however, and its survivors were annexed by Doctor Doom along with the former territories of Slorenia (destroyed by Ultron) and Vlatava (actually prevented from being destroyed by the Specter by Captain Universe Spiderman).

This massive push that tripled the size of Latveria and made it as large as present day Romania was assisted by Norman Osbourne and the Max Lord clone. The Max Lord clone erroneously believed he could control Doctor Doom only to discover that the ruler of the country was possessed of unconquerable willpower.

Black Adam was briefly sheltered by Doctor Doom afterward, later imprisoned by the Doctor who attempted to steal his Shazam-granted powers.

The Question actually made it to K'un-L'un with the assistance of Rene Montoya and Danny Rand. With the assistance of the Taoist immortals and herablists there, Vic Sage survived his lung cancer and is now on a "ten year regime" of kung fu and spiritual cleansing to cure it. Rene and Danny have since teamed up on several occasions.
Doom: "Honestly, you really should have been expecting this." :lol:
House of M: The aftermath of de-powering 90% of mutants in North America was much less catastrophic. There are still thousands of mutants left in the world, though the X-men are still understandably alarmed by the whole thing and feel like their charter was yanked out from under them.

Ironically, Superman believes Scott Summers has allowed Emma Frost and events like it to taint his perspective on events. With the help of Doctor Fate and several other extra magicians, limited fixes for Mutants have been done, though not the total reversal of the devastation.

The Terror-Smith, a wannabe supervillain from the DCU's forgettable Bloodlines event, actually became one of the more powerful supervillains in the world with the realization he could restore lost Mutant abilities. He's since become a tool of Apocalypse, Exodus, and several other figures as he fails to realize able to 'create' superpowered beings doesn't mean he can control them.
What were the DC heroes up to in the House of M?

Also, why do I feel that Magento's empire would fold like a house of cards when humanity died out?
New Krypton: With the assistance of Captain America and Iron Man, Superman was able to prevent General Lane's destruction of New Krypton. Likewise, Kal-El was able to expose the corrupt Zod administration as the warmongering psychos they were.

As a result, a peace treaty was negotiated between the Kryptonian Science Council and the people of planet Earth. The peace treaty has, surprisingly, managed to survive the directorship of Norman Osbourne (who had been privately funding Sam Lane's crusade) and the resulting political fallout. Lois Lane, through her reporting skills, was also able to confirm that the Sam Lane in question was in fact a Skrull impostor along with her sister. Both have since been recovered intact and sane.

New Krypton is still largely isolationist but has begun making tentative diplomatic overtures to Doomworld (Counter Earth) and the Inhumans. The Inhumans, especially, give the Kryptonians cause to believe humanity may evolve into a race worthy of attention.

I imagine Reed Richards has probably made a few trips to New Krypton since then.
Oh yes he has, I'd still imagine he be treated with high respect while there due to his scientific achievements.

What does Reed think of Luthor anyway?
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Re: The Combined DCU-Marvel Universe thread

Post by Charles Phipps » Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:38 pm

Voltron64 wrote:What an idiot. Guess what Galactus said about Thanos subconsciously wanting to lose is true.
Eh, Thanos' reverance for death has always been a type of self-abuse and rejection of Titan's utopian culture.
Voltron64 wrote:Why do I have a feeling these Weapon X-types honestly should've gotten something along the lines of being taken into a dark alley and shot in the head rather than jailtime?
Given some of them were actively involved in trying to remake the Final Solution in full knowledge of its similarity to the Nazis, you'd be absolutely correct. Sadly, Norman Osbourne recruited the sharpest minds into his project and left only guards and other types to take the wrap. Still, a small number got what was coming to them. Plenty of former Mutants have been transferred into regular Federal Prison and, let's just say that there have been a lot of "accidents" with these guys.
Voltron64 wrote:Good riddance, I also imagine that Norman sees his abusive father in his Goblin persona too.
Quite so. Sadly, Spidey DESPITE defying Mephisto's request still temporarilly is amnesiac and undergoing all the problems he is. Really, Mephisto is just a jerk.
Voltron64 wrote:Doom: "Honestly, you really should have been expecting this." :lol:
Black Adam, it should be noted, is a horrible judge of character. Still, he eventually escaped on his own power and has done the predictable VOW OF REVENGE!
Voltron wrote:What were the DC heroes up to in the House of M?
That deserves it's own post, which will follow this one.
Voltron wrote:Oh yes he has, I'd still imagine he be treated with high respect while there due to his scientific achievements.
Reed didn't have quite the reception he expected as the Science Council wasn't prepared to be outsmarted by Reed. He managed to point out several of their long standing scientific achievements were wrong and that Earth had several devices more advanced than New Krypton. This, to the Kryptonians, was a bit like discovering the Pygmy Bushman they were entertaining had built a Particle Collider in his cave.

Thankfully, once they got Alurra Zor-El cleansed of the Kryptonite poisoning that was affecting her mind, the Kryptonians started to realize Earth is just a very strange place. Reed has since been given access to Jor-El's notes and it's interesting because Reed believes Jor-El may have been the one other scientiffic peer he had in the universe (aside from, "you know who") and well... THE OTHER GUY.
Voltron64 wrote:What does Reed think of Luthor anyway
Reed actually knew Lex Luthor in Earth-777 before Superman came to Metropolis. Lex made several attempts to recruit Reed Richards into working for LexCorp during the early days of its pioneer research (when Luthor, more or less, blackmailed/bribed/threatened/seduced his way into getting the majority of experts from every field on Earth into working for it). When Reed gave a VERY FIRM but polite refusal, he was nearly killed in a drive-by done by Suicide Slum patrons wielding Intergang weapons. Ben Grimm, still human, was there thankfully to pull him back.

Reed realized, of course, that Lex had tried to have him killed. Since becoming Mister Fantastic, Reed has been involved in several adventures against Luthor's various creations and Injustice Gangs. In Luthor's mind, Reed is now a "freak" and thus safely dismissible in the same way Superman is and doesn't threaten his position as "World's Smartest Man."

Reed, actually thinks that Luthor is a BAD scientist in much the same way that Doctor Doom is. Brilliant but lazy, Lex basically uses Lex Corp to follow through on the majority of his ideas while reaping all the benefits (as one person observed, "Lex Luthor writes something on a napkin durinvg lunch, a team of crack researchers spend six month's deciphering it"). Doom, by contrast, has difficulty correcting his own errors because he hates believing he can make them. Reed doesn't have quite the same respect/loathing for Luthor as he does Doom but still considers them both to be brilliant men misusing their gifts and ultimately petty little tyrants.

Hilariously, Reed being Reed, had no problem saying this on national television when some random reporter asked his opinion on the 2000 election. This may have cost Luthor his Presidency run.

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Re: The Combined DCU-Marvel Universe thread

Post by Charles Phipps » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:00 pm

House of M

"The House of M" was directed by Wanda's subconscious, with the assistance of Pietro, to try and redirect some of Cthon's nightmarish power from her mind. Wanda's rampant spell-casting may have prevented her from being completely possessed by the Elder God, though this is of questionable veracity. What it did do, however, was catch the entirety of the planet in a spell that briefly gave them their subconscious desires. In some cases, the spell failed due to some wills overriding others and contradictory ideas.

For example, Doctor Doom wanted the Fantastic Four dead and his personality made it happen even though Reed Richards and his family certainly didn't want to die. Wanda's own desire to help her friends and loved ones, first and foremost, also granted them their wishes above everyone else's. Thus, the world came to resemble her father's vision of a Utopia as opposed to say, Reverend Stryker's own. While Wanda has never been particularly close to the Justice League's heroes, in part due to Doctor Fate's belief that she should have her mutant talent removed, she still attempted to "help" them as well.

This resulted in the following changes that all of the Justice League (and many lesser DCU heroes) managed to get:

* Superman: Clark Kent and Kal-El of Krypton actually split with the former being a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist, which he was anyway, married to Lois Lane while Kal-El was the Ambassador from Krypton to Planet Earth. This lead to a very bizarre situation where Clark and Kal-El were rivals while Lois started to realize the fakeness of the reality before anyone else. Lana Lang was once again married to Pete Ross while Jimmy Olsen was dating to Lucy Lane, but actually falling for Superman's cousin Kara.

It should be noted, in this universe, Lex Luthor is the Daily Planet's janitor.

* Wonder Woman: Princess Diana was once more an ambassador to Man's World and a person who no longer championed women's rights (because Magneto's world had complete social gender equality). Bizarrely, she was a champion for homo sapiens as a whole and often got into fights with Magneto's X-men due to the fact that she was training them to be assertive and independent. In this universe, Kal-El and Wonder Woman had a past relationship but it didn't work out.

* Batman: Mayor Thomas Wayne is celebrating his eighth term as Gotham City's Mayor next to his wife Martha. Doctor Bruce Wayne, the somewhat nebbish Director of Arkham Asylum, has almost 99.99% success in rehabilitating his patients. Bruce is married to Selena Kyle, who is secretly Catwoman but hiding it from her lover. The Joker is the one patient that Bruce Wayne cannot redeem and who obviously still remembers the Old World due to some weird quality of his insanity. Bruce Wayne is also haunted by images of Batman.

We then discover that Thomas Wayne is Batman and passes along his cape and cowl to Bruce after Martha Wayne is murdered by the Joker.

* Green Lantern: Hal Jordan is the lead pilot of Ferris Aircraft and also Earth's secondary Green Lantern. Sinestro, who was also caught in the wave, is Hal Jordan's supervisor and the two of them fight for justice against Magento's oppression in the few areas of the globe not knowing prosperity. Hal, for some reason, discovers that he can't leave the Earth's Solar system however. In this universe, Sinestro reveals that he's going to assassinate Magneto and install a Green Lantern backed puppet government. Hal and Sinestro end up in a brutal fight which ultimately seems to kill him.

His ring then goes to architect John Stewart, married to alien Katma-Tu (who he met on one of Magneto's good will missions to other planets).

* The Flash: Barry Allen, Wally West, Bart Allen, and Jay Garrick are all the Flashes and cheerfully adopted as the heroes of their twin cities. The Rogues are all members of SHIELD and help keep the peace rather than fight Barry. Professor Zoom is the only one who is still at free and ends up chasing Barry through the timestream, which causes him to discover the truth - that he was dead and this entire world was an illusion. Barry passes this information onto Wally, who has his memory restored by Layla Miller and who gives his respect to Barry as he fades away...

* Birds of Prey: Dick Grayson (codename: Nightwing) is a Colonel in SHIELD and dating Assistant Director Barbara Gordon. She heads a massive team of operatives, mostly female, that head out into the world righting wrongs and doing good. Layla and company break into SHIELD HQ as Barbara has to deal with the fact she's going to lose her legs if she helps change this world and also Dick's love...for a time.

In the end, she chooses to save the world.

* Green Arrow: Green Arrow is married to Black Canary and they fight against Magneto's oppression as the head of a massive resistance cell. Despite Black Canary being a mutant, she's still on the side of JUSTICE along with Huntress, Arsenal, and a number of other folks. The issue chronicles Green Arrow's group getting defeated by a branch of the X-men until he and Dinah get their memories restored.

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Re: The Combined DCU-Marvel Universe thread

Post by Ares » Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:56 pm

A niche I always liked for Cap was the idea that changes to reality, whether due to magic or time travel, don't effect him due to his powers coming from the Rock of Eternity, which exists outside of time and space. As such one of Cap's primary jobs is to help fix these reality changes similar to how Booster Gold was a secret defender of the timeline. It'd be an extra niche he could fill.

If Billy did get effected by Wanda, what probably would have happened would be that Black Adam never went bad and is still protecting the world today as a noble champion, whereas Billy and Mary get to live happily with their mom and dad while Freddy remains uncrippled and lives next door to the Batsons with his grandfather. Dr. Sivana is a kindly science teacher at school, Mr. Mind is an educational cartoon character no one likes, and Uncle Duddly is the ice cream man. Only Billy keeps having these dreams about an old man, and his subconscious keeps highlighting certain letters when he reads anything, creating a word that is on the tip of his tongue, but which a part of him doesn't want to say. Finally, he spits out the word and is transformed back into Cap, with the Wisdom of Solomon showing him the lie of the world and Shazam revealing what's happened, Billy having to essentially ruin not only his own life, but the lives of his friends and even that of some of his villains to do so.

Being a hero, of course, he does the right thing.

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Re: The Combined DCU-Marvel Universe thread

Post by Charles Phipps » Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:12 pm

I think that would be an excellent "House of M" issue for Captain Marvel.

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Re: The Combined DCU-Marvel Universe thread

Post by Voltron64 » Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:05 pm

Charles Phipps wrote:Eh, Thanos' reverance for death has always been a type of self-abuse and rejection of Titan's utopian culture.
True, true.
Charles Phipps wrote:Given some of them were actively involved in trying to remake the Final Solution in full knowledge of its similarity to the Nazis, you'd be absolutely correct. Sadly, Norman Osbourne recruited the sharpest minds into his project and left only guards and other types to take the wrap. Still, a small number got what was coming to them. Plenty of former Mutants have been transferred into regular Federal Prison and, let's just say that there have been a lot of "accidents" with these guys.
Are we talking shankings, dropping the soap, or both? Cause ending up a prison bitch would be a good ending for some of them. :twisted:
Charles Phipps wrote:
Quite so. Sadly, Spidey DESPITE defying Mephisto's request still temporarilly is amnesiac and undergoing all the problems he is. Really, Mephisto is just a jerk.
Certainly, I'd imagine the only person Mephisto is genuinely afraid is Lucifer.
Charles Phipps wrote:Black Adam, it should be noted, is a horrible judge of character. Still, he eventually escaped on his own power and has done the predictable VOW OF REVENGE!
Doom: "Good boy." :mrgreen:
Charles Phipps wrote:Reed didn't have quite the reception he expected as the Science Council wasn't prepared to be outsmarted by Reed. He managed to point out several of their long standing scientific achievements were wrong and that Earth had several devices more advanced than New Krypton. This, to the Kryptonians, was a bit like discovering the Pygmy Bushman they were entertaining had built a Particle Collider in his cave.

Thankfully, once they got Alurra Zor-El cleansed of the Kryptonite poisoning that was affecting her mind, the Kryptonians started to realize Earth is just a very strange place. Reed has since been given access to Jor-El's notes and it's interesting because Reed believes Jor-El may have been the one other scientific peer he had in the universe (aside from, "you know who") and well... THE OTHER GUY.
I always figured Jor-El to be a genius on the scale of Reed Richards and Luthor.

Also, Pygmy Bushman who built a Particle Collider, that's a good one.
Charles Phipps wrote:Reed actually knew Lex Luthor in Earth-777 before Superman came to Metropolis. Lex made several attempts to recruit Reed Richards into working for LexCorp during the early days of its pioneer research (when Luthor, more or less, blackmailed/bribed/threatened/seduced his way into getting the majority of experts from every field on Earth into working for it). When Reed gave a VERY FIRM but polite refusal, he was nearly killed in a drive-by done by Suicide Slum patrons wielding Intergang weapons. Ben Grimm, still human, was there thankfully to pull him back.

Reed realized, of course, that Lex had tried to have him killed. Since becoming Mister Fantastic, Reed has been involved in several adventures against Luthor's various creations and Injustice Gangs. In Luthor's mind, Reed is now a "freak" and thus safely dismissible in the same way Superman is and doesn't threaten his position as "World's Smartest Man."

Reed, actually thinks that Luthor is a BAD scientist in much the same way that Doctor Doom is. Brilliant but lazy, Lex basically uses Lex Corp to follow through on the majority of his ideas while reaping all the benefits (as one person observed, "Lex Luthor writes something on a napkin during lunch, a team of crack researchers spend six month's deciphering it"). Doom, by contrast, has difficulty correcting his own errors because he hates believing he can make them. Reed doesn't have quite the same respect/loathing for Luthor as he does Doom but still considers them both to be brilliant men misusing their gifts and ultimately petty little tyrants.

Hilariously, Reed being Reed, had no problem saying this on national television when some random reporter asked his opinion on the 2000 election. This may have cost Luthor his Presidency run.
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Excellent response to my question. Luthor is honestly a bigger freak than either of them, though. :lol:
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Re: The Combined DCU-Marvel Universe thread

Post by greycrusader » Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:52 am

I simply have to say the ideas and commentary on all the recent "Big Events" have rocked!

Kudos to all involved.
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Re: The Combined DCU-Marvel Universe thread

Post by Charles Phipps » Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:45 am

Runaways

Just as Wilson Fisk controlled the East Coast of the United States until Intergang replaced him, the West Coast of the United States was controlled by a mysterious criminal syndicate known as the Pride. Hal Jordan and Green Arrow managed to confront several of their minions and Oracle thwarted some of their efforts but it was Batman noticed that the inner circle of the organization seemed to possess protection above the normal means available to crime lords. Sadly, he didn't get to follow up on his suspicions due to other commitments. Batman did, however, send his suspicions to the West Coast Avengers HQ where they were promptly dismissed by Hank Pym in a moment that would cost California dearly.

The Pride, of course, were the pawns of the Gibborim, an ancient race of Semitic giants whose race had been destroyed by the Specter during the Great Flood. The surviving three Gibborim, who sought refuge in another dimension, plotted to wipe humanity out except for a small number of their followers. The Gibborim would then recreate humanity themselves and raise it as a perfect race. It is to the profound arrogance of the Pride's 12 members that they believed the Gibborim would have any place for them in their new paradise. However, the Pride was composed of sociopaths to the man and all of them were more concerned with the wealth and power that the Gibborim provided them in exchange for regular human sacrifices.

Eventually, the Pride gave birthed to six children which they intended to pass along their position as the favored of the Gibborim to. What they hadn't counted on was that these six children would be highly ill-disposed to helping their parents destroy the world. After a complicated series of events, the Runaways successfully defeated the Gibborim with the help of Young Justice and were rewarded by social services attempting to break them up. Since that time, the six have lived on the run across California, fighting supervillains as they live off their parents' legacy.

The Runaways have been approached by the Teen Titans, Young Avengers, and several other groups who have been trying to find a "place" for them in the world of superheroes. The Runaways have so far rejected every overture to them, though this is becoming increasingly impractical as they are starting to realize they all have competing interests. Even family can desire time away from another and the growing pains that united them now threaten to tear them apart.

Oddly, unlike Tony Stark and Captain America, the Justice League is somewhat more forgiving of their independence. The Teen Titans, after all, live more or less independently of adult supervision due to the trust their mentors place in them.

Runaways Members

Nico Minoru: A Japanese American member of the homo magi race, Nico Minoru possesses the Staff of One which is an Lord of Chaos artifact that allows her to do any single spell exactly once as long as she makes a sacrifice of her blood. Despite the magic stemming from the Lords of Chaos, Nico herself is a pleasant and loving individual who possesses no inclinations towards evil. Nico is the informal leader of the group with an admiration for Zatanna, who she briefly learned a few minor spells from (and who confirmed that magic is more about will than words). Nico has dated most of the men on the team and has a deeply suppressed attraction for Karolina, which confuses her.

Karolina Dean: A member of the Majesdanian race, a "cousin species" to the Tamaraneans, Karolina is a solar powered alien who possesses powers vaguely similar to Starfire's. Karolina was recently orphaned of her entire species due to a Skrull attack. Unfortunately, the survivors blame her for not taking responsibility for an arranged marriage to the Super-Skrull Xavin. The irony is that she is perfectly content in her relationship. Karolina is a lesbian of her species and crushes on Nico Minoru, a fact that the later is uncomfortably aware of as well as her paramour.

Molly Hayes: An exceptionally powerful mutant, Molly possesses strength roughly equivalent to Superman or the Mighty Thor with only slightly stronger than normal durability. Molly is a sweet and innocent child who loves the Runaways as her surrogate family but hasn't adopted fully the attitude that their parents were beyond redemption. Molly Hayes is slowly developing a somewhat oddball relationship with Wolverine as the man has tried to recruit her several times to the X-men, only to usually get his butt handed to her. Wonder Woman, of all people, tried to find out if she needed a home but Molly said that she thought the idea of a all-female island was sexist.

Chase Stein: The only slightly above average intelligence child of a pair of mad scientists, formerly in the employ of AIM, Chase Stein makes use of his parents inventions to fight crime. Despite his belief he is the weak link of the team, Chase is actually quite a good planner and the most practical of the team. His favorite weapon is the "Fistigons" which are capable of generating and manipulating flames. Chase Stein used to date team member Gertrude only to recently start dating Nico Minoru. Chase Stein has the biggest ambitions to become an actual superhero but has the biggest problem. Unique amongst the Runaways, Chase still has living family (all of who are members of AIM).

Xavin: A Super Skrull meant to eventually replace the first of his kind. Xavin's parents were given the option of conquering the Majesdanian homeworld. Xavin first attempted to woo Karolina for political purposes but eventually fell in love with her. As a Skrull, Xavin considers the concept of gender to be something of a non-issue. Karolina, it should be noted, desperately wants Xavin to be a "she" as opposed to an "it" however. Xavin is arrogant and imperious but is slowly starting to realize Earth is a strange world filled with incredibly powerful beings. Xavin is somewhat stunned by the Martian Manhunter, unable to parce the idea of a Skrull Eternal.

Victor Mancha: Victor Mancha is the cybernetic creation of Ultron with a volunteer human woman that the robot eventually murdered. An "evolving" cybernetic organism, Victor Mancha will eventually possess strength and durability only slightly less than Superman plus incredible intelligence as well as the ability to dominate machines. Currently, his abilities are significantly more limited. Victor Mancha is the Runaway most interested in dealing with other superheroes as he hopes to explore what he is with individuals like the Metal Men, Red Tornado, and even a few evil scientists like T.O. Morrow. He was briefly in a relationship with Nico but ended it due to an infatuation with a early 20th century mutant.

In retrospect, this was an extremely boneheaded mood.

Klara Plast: An ancestor of Jason Woodrue, Klara Plast was the child bride of an abusive husband taken by the Runaways during a journey to the early 20th century. A cloropkinetic, she possesses powers roughly equivalent to Poison Ivy. Currently, the time stream has yet to feel the effects of Jason's ancestor being removed from the timestream. Klara is completely bamboozled by the 21st century and troubled by the various social and technological changes she encounters.

Former Members

Alex Wilder: The genius child of a pair of minor Intergang thugs who eventually evolved to become devious criminal masterminds. Alex Wilder was the quisling of the organization, intending to ultimately assist in his parent's ambition. Alex managed to learn a small amount of magic during this time from studying the Gibborim's holy texts, despite not being homo magi. Alex was killed for his efforts and is currently trapped in Limbo for his efforts. He recently attempted to help the Runaways despite his condition, which may prevent his damnation. It's equally possible that one of the many demons in Hell may decide to go "slumming" and offer him a second chance at life in hopes of gaining some of the Gibborim's lost power.

It had been Alex's intentions of becoming "the black Lex Luthor" before he discovered his parents intended to destroy the world.

Gertrude Yorkes: The daughter of the time-traveling Yorkes Crime family from the 87th century, they were briefly henchmen to both Per Degatron and Kang the Conqueror. Gertrude was the smart mouthed girlfriend of Chase Stein, destined to become a leading member of the Avengers. This future, unfortunately, was obliterated and she along with it. Chase was so traumatized he intended to offer himself in exchange for Gertrude's life to the Gibborim. Ironically, due to his self-sacrificing nature, this meant the sacrifice couldn't be completed. Recently, due to the paradoxical nature of time travel, a new version of her has entered the time stream. Time will tell how this impacts Chase and Nico's burgeoning relationship.

Gertrude was deeply cynical about all superheroes, believing Superman probably had a bunch of dead bodies in his closet.
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Re: The Combined DCU-Marvel Universe thread

Post by Voltron64 » Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:35 am

Charles Phipps wrote: Xavin: A Super Skrull meant to eventually replace the first of his kind. Xavin's parents were given the option of conquering the Majesdanian homeworld. Xavin first attempted to woo Karolina for political purposes but eventually fell in love with her. As a Skrull, Xavin considers the concept of gender to be something of a non-issue. Karolina, it should be noted, desperately wants Xavin to be a "she" as opposed to an "it" however. Xavin is arrogant and imperious but is slowly starting to realize Earth is a strange world filled with incredibly powerful beings. Xavin is somewhat stunned by the Martian Manhunter, unable to parce the idea of a Skrull Eternal.
Speaking of the Martian Manhunter as a Skrull Eternal, I wonder if his kind assisted their Human counterparts in setting up colonies throughout the solar system back in the day?
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Re: The Combined DCU-Marvel Universe thread

Post by Neo-Paladin » Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:19 am

Love the Runaways...Charles, care to tell me what group they are modelled after? Or is it a complete invention of yours? BTW, in case you haven't read the message yet and you did proclaim interest...recruitment for my Earth-47 game is now open in the Game Room.

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Re: The Combined DCU-Marvel Universe thread

Post by Charles Phipps » Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:23 am

Neo-Paladin wrote:Love the Runaways...Charles, care to tell me what group they are modelled after? Or is it a complete invention of yours? BTW, in case you haven't read the message yet and you did proclaim interest...recruitment for my Earth-47 game is now open in the Game Room.
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Re: The Combined DCU-Marvel Universe thread

Post by Neo-Paladin » Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:33 am

Ohhh....kay...this looks weird ;)

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