Mutants & Masterminds
HQ    ABOUT M&M    SUPER-VISION    GIMMICK'S GADGETS    M&M SUPERLINK    ATOMIC THINK TANK    M&M SHOP
Saving the world, one d20 roll at a time

Halt Evil Doer! thread IV - (Zombies!)

Discuss Freedom City, Paragons, Wild Cards, or your own campaign settings here.

Moderators: The Mod Squad, The Justice League, M&M Line Developer

Re: Halt Evil Doer! thread IV - Superhero Boogaloo

Postby Phrozen » Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:20 pm

So, I had more time then I thought.

Misery
Good, you are awake. I want you to remember this. Is your hand nice and numb? Good. I wanted you to know that what I am about to do gives me no pleasure. It is unfortunate but you will be an instrument of my revenge. Now, when I am done I will make sure that you get the best medical care. Wouldn't want you to die now would we ? Shall we begin? Its such a shame that we have to remove a healthy hand.

Dr. Harold Boatwright was New Amsterdam's best trauma surgeon, probably the best when it came to Metaman physiology in the world.. He was used to patching up heroes and the victims of attacks. He has operated on almost every type of being on Earth. Of course, this meant that he had more access to the identities of many heroes and villains and their loved ones then just about anybody on Earth.

Dr. Boatwright's descent into villainy is quite tragic. It started with his wife. She was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. Even in the age of super science, pancreatic cancer is a death sentence. Dr. Boatwright reached out to anybody he could. Even to the villains that he operated on. No one had a cure. Dr. Boatwright prayed to any deity he knew of. He knew they existed, heck he preformed surgery on a few of them. Dr. Boatwright's wife died five months later.

Then his kids got into a horrible car accident. Both of them suffered severe brain trauma. The prognosis wasn't good. They may never wake up from their medically induced coma and if they did there was no knowing if any brain functions would be present. Again, Dr. Boatwright reached out to anybody he knew or helped in the past. No help could be found. Again, he prayed. After three months his kids condition did not improve and with no help seemingly on the way, Dr. Boatwright decided to pull the plug on his kids life support. In less then a year, he had lost his entire family.

How come he had to lose his loved ones? He was a healer, he saved hundreds of lives both grand and not. Some of Earth's greatest champions were alive because of his skill, his hand. What benevolent deites would take away those he loved most? If they wouldn't respond to his pleas and his skill at healing, maybe they would respond to his ability to inflict pain and hurt. He would spread misery throughout the world till they gave him what he wanted. His wife and kids restored to health.

Gathering his surgical supplies, Dr. Boatwright burned down his house. What followed was months of gruesome maimings. None of the victims were actually killed though. They were simply maimed and left at the doorstep of a major hospital. Hands and feet were amputated. Eyes, vocal cords, and tongues were surgically removed. One poor man even had his chest opened up and his lungs damaged leaving him with a raspy cough. All the wounds were cauterized to make replacement with prosthesis or donated organs difficult or impossible.

All the victims reported they were conscious throughout the procedure with just the area removed being under local anesthesia. They all reported a man fitting Dr. Boatwright's description wearing a black surgical mask and the smell of pine based cleaner. Dr. Boatwright sometimes sends samples of that same cleaner to his older victims to remind them of their experience. They couldn't remember being kidnapped or delivered to the hospital. Some of the victims were connected to local heroes and villains.

Dr. Boatwright was finally hunted down by Lucien Drake who figured the man must be under some sort of evil influence. Finding the man wasn't and knowing that death wasn't punishment enough, Lucien crippled Dr. Boatwright and left the doctor a quadriplegic. That was not the end of Dr. Boatwright, dubbed Misery by the press. It seems that Mister Z has taken a shine to the mans work and has since empowered him to continue the spread of his mission of misery.
Phrozen
Hero
Hero
 
Posts: 1794
Joined: Sun Apr 11, 2010 4:42 pm

Re: Halt Evil Doer! thread IV - Superhero Boogaloo

Postby Charles Phipps » Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:02 pm

Lucien: Dammit, cruel mercy is apparently still mercy. When will I learn to stop showing it!?

Valkyrie: THAT'S what you took from it?

Lucien: Yes, what else would I?

Valkyrie: *sigh*

Excellent creepy character. Reminds me of SAW.
User avatar
Charles Phipps
Harbinger of Doom
Harbinger of Doom
 
Posts: 6905
Joined: Sun Jun 25, 2006 6:09 pm
Location: Ashland, Ky

Re: Halt Evil Doer! thread IV - Superhero Boogaloo

Postby Libra » Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:09 pm

Libra: I accept your ruminations on the illustrious Captain Orange and his less blessed daughter as canon; the Captain's multiple scientific disciplines extended to chemistry, geology, and civil engineering, leading naturally to a career in S.Africa's diamond industry.


Thank you for your trust! I must admit that I am more inclined to take an interest in South Africa than I am knowledgeable (blame an author named Wilbur Smith, whose various novels I remain devoted to and recommend as ripping yarns if you don't mind the literary equivelent of old John Wayne movies!).

Jerome "Praetoria John" Hammersmith was indeed a Prof. Henry Jones Jr. type figure, though an anthropologist rather than an archaeologist.


Doubtless he and David Hawthorne got into a scrape or two together, back in the day! 8)

Near the tail end of his adventuring career, Rooivalk was provided with PHANTOM gadgets and weapons, as the S.A. government began almost openly cooperating with PHANTOM and even the Black Hand.


One suspects that it was the Praetorian Guard and the lunatic fringe who got involved up to their eyeballs in that respect - it must be noted that the last president of the Apartheid regime was pivotal to the peaceful handover of power and that it was an ALL WHITE referendum than handed him the mandate to do so.

While F.W. was no saint (he was a politician, that goes without saying), one could argue that the major reason that Zimbabwe came to it's present state of affairs was as much due to the fact that Rhodesia never produced a de Klerk as it was due to the fact that Mugabe - if he ever had any virtues - was certainly no Nelson Mandela - even taking as a given that the latter isn't perfect, he's a greater man than Mugabe ever will be in a year of blue moons.



So I would suggest that while there were elements in White South Africa that became pretty desperate when confronted by the prospect of Apartheid's collapse, I'd suggest that they were more of a lunatic fringe than the life and soul of the Parliamentary Process (and quite probably centred around the Praetorian Guard at that).

Actually, reading the article describing the negotiations to end Apartheid, there are interesting mentions of a group trying to derail the peace process - a purportedly state-sponsored third party, which may or may not have existed in our world. For Heroic Earth, however, one can only call this a Heaven-sent opportunity to set up a final clash between The Praetorian Guard and The New Freedom Fellowship (native South African Freedom Fighters of all colours and The Justicars), a burly brawl for the soul and future of the Republic.



Red Kestrel and Stone Ghost were indeed at odds with each other throughout their careers, though in truth Stone Ghost held a decided edge. The black hero was stronger willed, personally trained by both Red Jaguar and (later) George Timmons, and equipped with Nestorian technology.


That does seem to be a formidable edge in training - one suspects that the fact that he could probably count on at least a few sympathisers amongst the White Community (not all of them were in favour of 'Apartness'), while Rooivalk never really acquired any sort of positive reputation with the community outside his own colour might have proved a decisive edge.

Near the tail end of his adventuring career, Rooivalk was provided with PHANTOM gadgets and weapons, as the S.A. government began almost openly cooperating with PHANTOM and even the Black Hand.


I'd like to imagine that he STOLE the gadgets and weapons he wanted (rather than the ones the White Warlock negotiated for), if only as a point of principle, even if it didn't do much to salve his conscience at all.

Perhaps for the best, he was defeated and forced into exile by Blackwing I and Stone Ghost before then.


Ironically the fact that Black-Wing (a man whom he had, quite obviously, much admired and would continue to respect), had come to regard him as such a threat to any kind of peace in South Africa that he would blackmail Kemp into leaving his Homeland, even after the latter had effectively given his parole - although admittedly not his support - to the new regime hurt Kemp Snr. even more than the rather thorough trouncing he received at the hands of Stone Ghost.

Quite frankly it drove home the harsh truth that as far as The World was concerned, Rooivalk was no better than any other 'bitter ender' member of the Praetorian Guard - a group consisting of almost every member of the Eugenic Brigade, amongst others - and that while that wasn't an entirely fair judgement, it was an eminently accurate one. Even Kemp himself couldn't disagree with it - which hurt worst of all.

PS: Still looking forward to Libra's ideas for Apartheid era freedom fighter superhumans and a current racially diverse S.A. superteam.


I'll see what I can come up with - I'm actually working on a couple of them, the Big Five I may have mentioned earlier, as well as a semi-legitimate Zulu team which fought it's own corner and anyone who happened to try butting into it (both from the Apartheid era).

As far as a modern S.A. super-team goes, I haven't come up with anything much I'm afraid (beyond a name, the Southern Cross Seven, and one long-term member, The Lady of the Southern Cross), but your mention of Milestone Comics may well have given me a useful lead!

Who would have thought a topic about a turbulent third world nation could prove so fertile and interesting?


To coin a quote "Interesting times have a habit of producing interesting people."

I would, however, like to point out that calling South Africa a third-world country is a bit misleading: it's one of the four countries in Africa ranked as an upper-middle income economy by the World Bank and it's the largest single economy in Africa, as well as number #28 in the World.

I would suggest that it's more a First-World Economy with Third-World problems.

Gentlemen, you've both done fantastic work and I would like to go over each and every entry at length in terms of commentary, I must beg your pardon and ask that I be permitted to post briefly, in order that I might progress more swiftly to typing up my own articles. Would that be all right?

I will continue to comment, of course, but will save in-depth thoughts for the weekends if I may. (As I am facing a rather intense period of study in anticipation of a qualification exam in two weeks and may not have time to spare to do much work then).


Medreut

Charles, permit me to congratulate you for this interesting take on an Arthurian character! (Might I ask if this means Medreut and Mordred BOTH served the Dark Undermaster? So far as I can make out, they aren't the same person in this version of events).

Might I ask if you have any other changes in mind for the HED! IV version of the Arthurian mythos?

The stories tend to gloss over Medreut was genuinely the most honorable of the knights but 6th century honor was a BIT different than 15th.

He's from a time when being a knight wasn't about being shiny but being very good at killing people.


As Arthur Pendragon would put it, back in the days before firearms made visibility on the battlefield a death sentence shining armour in the field didn't point out a fop - it showed that your opponent was (A) representative of a faction so disciplined and well-supplied that it could - and would - keep it's fighting equipment in top condition even in the field, as well as (B) so strong that he didn't NEED to skulk around in order to get any serious killing done.

Back in the day shiny armour wasn't a point of vulnerability, it was a show of strength! (even if Wart did like to see a few well-repaired dents in a suit, as a sign of proper usage).

He would also suggest that, being a warrior aristocracy, being a good administrator was also part and parcel of knightly duty (it was certainly was on HIS beat and Heaven help any knight who couldn't make sword or quill work for him with equal facility - why do you think there were so many knights wandering around at loose ends?).

The National Super-Defence

Excellent work here Grey Crusader - I'll almost certainly give these characters due attention at some point.

Rampart

Let me guess: Rampart picked up his 'loveable' attitudes from parents who'd been a little too fond of Sir Oswald Mosley and entirely too fond of the British Union of Fascists? (emigrating in the aftermath of the Battle of Cable Street, having decided that England was a wee bit too liberal for their tastes).

I also have dark suspicions that he killed most of his lady friends by virtue of the fact that he lived up to Larry Niven's expectations regarding superhuman/humanb coitus in a way Clark Kent never, ever will.

Ophelia, High Princess of the Zealots

Fine work, Enigmatic One! :wink:

The Blazing Man

A rather splendid article, Charles, although one has the unhappy suspicion that the whole business convinced Dark Lustre that nothing ever came of doing Good.

Chitin Girl

:shock:

Dearie, dearie me.

How do you come up with them Charles? (A fine, spine-chilling sort of character Charles: I suspect that she can be relied upon to give Splotch ... well, Nightmares and Trouble in equal measure).

Phrozen

Fine work Phrozen - I don't know what he'll do to superheroes, but he certainly gives ME nightmares.
Founder of H.E.R.O.I.C, Complimenter-in-Chief, Co-Arch Henchman to the Grin, Servant of the Hoff!

Rule Brittania! Praise the Hoff and the Grin!

Warning!: May cause Thread Drift.
User avatar
Libra
Cosmic Entity
Cosmic Entity
 
Posts: 19411
Joined: Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:46 pm
Location: The Green and Pleasent Isle

Kamraterna

Postby Libra » Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:22 pm

Sweden - peacefully neutral since 1814, ranked second in the World by the World Economic Forum in 2010, as well as #10 on the United Nations Human Development Index and the most equal country on Earth in terms of economic division according to the Gini Coefficient - is in all likelihood one of the nicest places to live on the face of Earth. Even so, as any readers of the Millennium Trilogy will probably be quivering to point out, the Swedish have their fair share of problems: a crime rate steadily creeping upwards, the third highest rate of assault and threat, one of the highest rates of reported rape on the Continent and worst of all a bad habit of just not talking to the police about this sort of thing amongst elements of the population.

Yes, SWEDEN has severe problems with Crime, that includes Superhuman Crime (not to mention Mythological Terrorists - no, not mythical, Mythic) and quite frankly Law Enforcement can't always work around their limits fast enough: luckily for the Swedish, Sweden has been the leading the field amongst the Scandinavian nations in terms of support for local superhuman champions for a while now (despite the noble efforts of Ice-Mariner and Valravn, amongst a few others).

If that sounds like an overly narrow superlative, well, consider the fact that out of twenty-seven EU member states only nine have produced a superhero population considered worth adding to the International Superheroes Index* and now consider the fact that Sweden numbers amongst The Nine, alongside neighbouring Finland (as well as Belgium, France, Germany, Italy, The Netherlands, Spain and the United Kingdom). There's a reason for this.

*On Heroic Earth it's a little like the equivelent of Jane's ... for superheroes.


Well, actually there are several, but what it all boils down to is that alone amongst the Scandinavian nations Sweden was not involved in the Second World War: it's population was therefore neither stamped down upon by the Eugenics Brigade or able to beat the Ubersoldaten (which Finland, near to the end of the Second World War and the strength of the Eugenics Brigade WAS).

In the eyes of the Swedish, superhumans were never tarnished by association to quite the same degree as they were in the other nations of continental Europe - and during the Cold War, while other nations harvested the cream of their Superhuman populations for foreign service to staff the Freedom Alliance (or The People's Revolution), Sweden was able to keep her champions close to Home - and benefit from congenial ties with the United States to buff them up a bit.

While a bit more organised and a touch more low-key than their American counterparts (or some of their European colleagues: Ice-Mariner comes to mind and refuses to quiet down until he's mentioned), Sweden's superhero community has been doing Yeoman Service for King and Kingdom since before the dawn of the Silver Age (albeit never more colourfully than now, as something of a Renaissance sweeps the European Superhuman community, newly liberated from the shadowy domination of the continent by PHANTOM which culled so many of those who refused to keep their heads down).

Foremost amongst this population are the Kamraterna (The Comrades) a trio of heroes sometimes jokingly referred to as having been "awarded the three crowns of Superheroes" - while only moderately well-known on the World Stage and most often no more than three strong, The Comrades serve as the steel spine of the Swedish superhero community and a solid core to which additional heroes might be added in times of emergency (during the Orkus Invasion, for example, Heroes assembled from all around the Baltic to form one half of a massive pincer movement against Baba Yaga's forces as they streamed out of Russia - matching or exceeding their comrades in Central and Eastern Europe).

Long may they continue to do so.


Aran (Honour)

Sweden's most advanced suit of power armour to date, Aran is at the bleeding edge of Scandinavian Power Armour technology and the cutting edge of European Battlesuit tech: the trio of operators who rotate piloting duties during peacetime - who can also be relied upon to man it's older step-sisters Draken and Manskliga Rattigheter (Human Rights) in the event of a real emergency - are equally sharp.

Foremost amongst them - by virtue of seniority, experience and having survived an encounter with Baba Yaga's chicken-walker hut with his faculties as well as most of his limbs intact - is Yngve Elof Svenson, a distaff relation of the Swedish Royal Family (which means his ancestor was born on the wrong side of the blanket), a man who has taken the motto of his old regiment (the Livgardet) to heart: Given that motto is "We do the impossible" he has a lot to live up to.

He failed, albeit only temporarily, in the sense that he actually died trying (that chicken-walking hut is a MEAN son-of-a-birch) then got right back up again - after CPR, emergency evacuation and the implantation of the extremely advanced cybernetics which would make him even more of a top-flight Power-Armour Jockey than he was already and malfunctioned spectacularly seconds after activation.

Minutes after failsafe and a certain amount of panic set in, Elof came back from the dead. Again.

As you've no doubt noticed, this means that Elof has cheated death, like many another superhero - unfortunately for Elof, unlike many similar cases, his own has attracted the attention of Death who appreciates the cinema of Ingmar Bergman as much as the next supernatural entity.

They play chess.

Svenson keeps winning, which means he gets to keep living.

For now.

Disa

In the time when a God-King ruled in what would one day become Sweden, a long period of peace saw a population explosion which threatened to produce a famine - deciding to curtail this threat of starvation before predictions of famine could come to pass, the King decided to sacrifice to Odin all the elderly, handicapped and sickly souls he could find in his kingdom (as thanks for the Long Peace which had produced this increasing problem of population growth in the first place).

To say that Disa Sigstensdottir of Uppland was less than impressed by this stroke of 'wisdom' on the part of her king is a complete understatement of fantastic degree. She came before the King and his senior chieftains, had words with them about their wisdom and offered her own rather more less democidal advice. Given that they weren't entirely blind to her mockery of their theories of population reduction, the King and his Chieftains set her a challenge to prove her cunning, before they would consider hearing her council.

God-King Freyr asked her to visit him, but forbade her to do so by foot or by horse, in a wagon or in a boat: she would not be permitted to visit him either dressed or in a state of undress. The time of her visit must not be within a year nor within a month, she must come neither during daytime nor night-time, nor should she come when the moon was waxing or waning.

Disa, being a cunning woman, passed the test by harnessing two young men to a sled: By the sled, she had a Billy goat and she kept one leg on the goat and the other leg in the sled: for clothes she wore nothing but a net, and she timed her meeting with the king for dusk of the third day before Yule, a day which was not counted in the year but was considered to be an additional day between two years.

Having duly proved that she could think circles around the old men at court (and their king), the wisdom of Disa was swiftly heeded - members of the population were chosen by lot, given goods and chattels, then sent out to settle the thinly-populated northern regions of the Kingdom and cultivate the land.

The wisdom of Disa was such that her rulings were eagerly sought by all men and women of sense across the land. The millennia since then have done nothing to wither the sense of the women in her line - or their hatred of the Asgardians, who have so ardently fought to retain their frequently bloody-handed grip on their Scandinavian heartlands.

They eagerly sent for the first Christian missionaries to arrive in Sweden and lent them their support (priests of the White Christ had their faults, but transmission of a near-omnicidal hunger for battle, a cosmic death-wish and a habit of human sacrifice were not amongst them), as well as masterminding other strokes which curtailed the power of Asgard in this world over the centuries - eventually leaving once-Imperial Sweden a much, much, much more peaceful place.

To say that this failed to endear them to Odin and company is an understatement of Mythic proportions: still, the Disadottir have kept on going to spite the Old Gods of the North and to protect their fellow men and women from Asgardian spite. The current heir to the mantle, Cathrine Ronja Albertsson, is currently operating as a costumed adventurer and voice of common sense alongside the Swedish superhero population - albeit in her own sharp-edged and distinctively punkish manner.

Vainamo (Law-Poet)

Tomas Aatu Waldemar Tomasson, alias Vainamo the Law-Poet, is the latest scion from an unbroken lineage* which has never quite been able to decide if they're 'Sweden Finns' or 'Finland-Swedes' mostly because at the time the lineage was first verifiably recorded in the chronicles the distinction was a pretty academic one (given that what are now two separate countries were one, albeit not necessarily the same) and the family has retained a fine disdain for little things like Borders ever since, especially when they presented barriers to a noble cause.

The family helped make the Kalmar Union, rode with Gustavus Adolphus, played a discrete role in making Sweden a Great Power and helped break up their dominions by playing a part in the negotiations which left Finland an autonomous grand principality, then led cultural and political resistance to the Russians - and finally played their part in the Winter War and the Continuation War against the Soviet Union (although they also played The Scarlet Pimpernel to the Nazis, conducting Jews to the relative safety of Sweden in considerable numbers) - to cut a long, splendidly-told story short, they've got around and that's not even counting their contributions to the defence of Finland and Sweden (along with the rest of Scandinavia, as well as some of the other states around The Baltic Sea) or the families ancestral - and unconformable - ballads.

The present heir of this illustrious lineage, having been born in Sweden thanks to an accident of fate (as well as his illustrious father's habit of playing hob with both the CIA and the KGB) has spent his career dividing his time impartially between the two neighbouring nations. It was not he, on encountering a much younger Arna and Disa, who suggested that they pool their efforts (that would be Disa, ever sensible, especially when faced with the prospect of all three being hanged separately if they didn't hang together), but it was Vainamo who charmed everyone concerned into embracing the idea with enthusiasm.

He has since spent almost as much of his career chaffing Arna and grumbling around Disa as he has brooding on the evils of the World, waxing poetic about them and then kicking the £%$ out of those who perpetrate them (with the odd fit of wood-carving with his puukko and the odd tune on his prize kantele by way of a less stressful hobby).

It's been a good life and even better thanks to the fact that the trio work beautifully together - even if Arna is a stick-up-the-backside rationalist and Disa is as tone-deaf as a broken stick, bless them.

*Albeit one which has, like many families of great antiquity, had to shuffle surnames about a bit as the line of descent passed back and forth between various branches of the family tree.
Last edited by Libra on Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:36 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Founder of H.E.R.O.I.C, Complimenter-in-Chief, Co-Arch Henchman to the Grin, Servant of the Hoff!

Rule Brittania! Praise the Hoff and the Grin!

Warning!: May cause Thread Drift.
User avatar
Libra
Cosmic Entity
Cosmic Entity
 
Posts: 19411
Joined: Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:46 pm
Location: The Green and Pleasent Isle

Re: Halt Evil Doer! thread IV - Superhero Boogaloo

Postby Libra » Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:24 pm

A small change of pace, in homage to Grey Crusader's Valravn and Law-Poet (don't worry, he'll get his own share of the limelight tomorrow!), both from the late and lamented HED! III thread.

I hope you enjoy it. :wink:
Founder of H.E.R.O.I.C, Complimenter-in-Chief, Co-Arch Henchman to the Grin, Servant of the Hoff!

Rule Brittania! Praise the Hoff and the Grin!

Warning!: May cause Thread Drift.
User avatar
Libra
Cosmic Entity
Cosmic Entity
 
Posts: 19411
Joined: Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:46 pm
Location: The Green and Pleasent Isle

Re: Halt Evil Doer! thread IV - Superhero Boogaloo

Postby Charles Phipps » Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:35 pm

Charles, permit me to congratulate you for this interesting take on an Arthurian character! (Might I ask if this means Medreut and Mordred BOTH served the Dark Undermaster? So far as I can make out, they aren't the same person in this version of events).

Might I ask if you have any other changes in mind for the HED! IV version of the Arthurian mythos?

No, not at all.

In case it wasn't clear, greycrusader's bit about Krugerrand hiring people to be "him" wasn't in my plan but actually just a brainwashed Medreut. Medreut had sadly been something of a B-list Golden age hero and ended up being captured by the Nazis before being put throughTHE PUNISHMENT of being buried alive when he was an immortal.

Krugerrand eventually researched this while on a quest to find Nazi gold, specifically the fortunes of Jews robbed by the regime. Yes, you read that correctly. Seriously, even I as his creator am surprised by the lengths this guy sunk to in order to enrich himself. In any case, he found Medreut's coffin instead (sealed in cement and buried at the bottom of a German lake).

Medreut was a member of the Eugenics Brigade for almost twenty years. In all likelihood, the oxygen deprivation (not to mention insanity-inducing loneliness) was one of the reasons why White Sorcerer had such an easy time brainwashing him. Medreut was little moe than a automaton controlled by Kruggerrand despite being the team leader and doesn't remember the countless atrocities they committed.

He is, however, very interested in hunting down and exterminating the White Sorcerer. In fact, he wants to eliminate all the members of the team with the possible exception of Chitin-Girl. Frankly, he tends to think of her as a girl misused. Which may be true but isn't quite accurate anymore.

Admittedly, Medreut will have to step in line with all the other people that WS has tormented over the years but he thinks he has just as much justification for being the guy to eliminate him as anyone else. Then again, Medreut has A LOT of people he has a desire to kill. For example, Count Reich II was the guy to bury him alive.

As for his name being Medreut, no, he's actually the HISTORICAL Medreut.

The historical Medreut is someone listed as dying in the same battle as Arthur but otherwise nothing is known about him. I figured since Lancelot was a latter invention, it might be amusing to state that Mordred and he were seperate characters (one namned after the other). Honestly, in the original HED! Court of Camelot, Gawain and Lancelot were rivals for who was the greater knight.

Amusingly, it was Gawain with his "Green Knight" troubles who was the more typical "perfect knight."

In short, though, Medreut *IS* Lancelot and has never served the Dark Undermaster. He would probably tear through him to get at Morgana, however. His half-sister has a lot to answer for, raising such a little **** as Mordred and having the audacity to name him after him!
User avatar
Charles Phipps
Harbinger of Doom
Harbinger of Doom
 
Posts: 6905
Joined: Sun Jun 25, 2006 6:09 pm
Location: Ashland, Ky

Re: Halt Evil Doer! thread IV - Superhero Boogaloo

Postby Phrozen » Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:41 pm

Charles Phipps wrote:Lucien: Dammit, cruel mercy is apparently still mercy. When will I learn to stop showing it!?

Valkyrie: THAT'S what you took from it?

Lucien: Yes, what else would I?

Valkyrie: *sigh*

Excellent creepy character. Reminds me of SAW.


Not really saw. There are no traps. Just surgical maiming. He also knows a lot of heroes true identities, easier to prey on their loved ones and family.

Suffice to say, he is probably one of the most hated on a personal level person on Earth.
Phrozen
Hero
Hero
 
Posts: 1794
Joined: Sun Apr 11, 2010 4:42 pm

Re: Halt Evil Doer! thread IV - Superhero Boogaloo

Postby Phrozen » Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:04 pm

The Double Headed Axe

It is common knowledge that symbols have power. Archaeologist have found one symbol throughout the near east and Greece associated with the earliest finds of human civilization. That of the double headed axe. From Knossos to Ur. The remarkably similar design seems to be ingrained into the places of power. Even appearing as early as Catalhoyuk. It was no sword that Sargon brandished as the symbol of his power but an axe which he dipped into the Arabian Sea to show his conquest of the known world.* For a symbol to be held in such regard, it's origins are maddeningly baffling. Even the Order of Thoth-Hermes knows not of its origin. No god uses it as their symbol but its relationship to power is quite evident. They know it contains domineering and brutal magic like the ancient leaders who made it their symbol. Perhaps it is connected to a long forgotten god or maybe a wholly human symbol whose power is forged through the earliest days of human memory.

This ax is a formidable artifact itself. It bestows great military prowess on whomever possess it, a lust for conquest, and a portion of power from the currently missing Sumerian pantheon. Currently, it resides in Dracula's keep but he is unable to use since he isn't mortal.


Invoking the double headed axe is done rarely, it is powerful but also forgotten. To note no modern hero or villain uses it. Though, the Order of Thoth-Hermes is somewhat interested in its implications as organic human magic. If some more interesting research does interrupt them first.
Phrozen
Hero
Hero
 
Posts: 1794
Joined: Sun Apr 11, 2010 4:42 pm

Re: Halt Evil Doer! thread IV - Superhero Boogaloo

Postby greycrusader » Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:09 pm

I will return with my final entry for the Praetorian Guardsmen tomorrow night, Purity Fire, along with a few additional notes on the other members. I might expand a bit on the Rhodesian supers as well, though not in great detail, as Libra stated he would like to comment upon the "National Super-Defense Forces" membership.

I have also decided I will allow the final fates of any Praetorians or associated characters up to others on this forum, primarily because no ideas I've come up with for them seem really satisfying.

Charles, absolutely excellent work on The Blazing Man, Dark Lustre, Chitin and the others. I did conceive of Dark Lustre having a talent for resurrection (or perhaps just evading "certain" death) so she could make a fine recurring Major Villainess for a capaign (there aren't too many in HED, save for the Baroness, Emerald Dragon, and the two female Justicars/Psychotic 7 members, Jane Union and Hecate).

Libra, point taken about F.W. DeKlerk and the (mostly) peaceful transition from Apartheid into a socialist democratic model-I was thinking about the years in the early and mid-1980s, while Botha was still prime minister and South Africa was a pariah nation. The economic sanctions (which eventually even the US capitulated on) caused terrible economic contraction in S.A., and in the HED Earth setting I thought it made sense S.A. would turn to criminal trans-nationals such as PHANTOM as "trade partners" of last resort.

Point taken about South Africa being a (perhaps second-or third-rank) First World economy saddled with Third World social problems. Still, in defense of my statement, even relatively advanced nations such as Argentina, Brazil, and even India are not always considered "First World", primarily because of still wretched levels of poverty and illiteracy among far too many of the populance. China and India are industrialized, do cutting edge research and engineering, and have some excellent universities-but also millions who exist on a subsistence level, almost nothing in terms of social safety nets, few or no environmental, labor, or workplace safety laws, and blatantly corrupt judicial and police systems.

I imagine HED North Korea has similar arrangements, as the real-world N.Korea is essentially a criminal state today, not merely a rogue or failed state. The North has no real enterprises or exports save money laundering, illegal arms dealing, training terrorists from other renegade nations and the like.

All while hundreds of thousands of the common people are near-starving. Man, the real world needs superheroes.
The Contingent: When all other super teams fail...
greycrusader
Hero
Hero
 
Posts: 1729
Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2004 8:30 am
Location: 15 Mechling Way Greensurg PA 15601

Re: Halt Evil Doer! thread IV - Superhero Boogaloo

Postby vitruvian » Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:34 pm

Charles Phipps wrote:* Lamplighter Laws have been formalized into a "Hero Act" which firmly gives government supporting heroes a huge advantage over vigilantes and illegalizes a lot of activities. Unlike Marvel's version, it's actually very ambiguous.


Hopefully that was sarcastic, right there.
vitruvian
Henchman
Henchman
 
Posts: 209
Joined: Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:59 pm

Re: Halt Evil Doer! thread IV - Superhero Boogaloo

Postby Libra » Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:42 pm

No, not at all.


Message received and understood - please accept my apologies for what now seems a slightly daft question. :D

Yes, you read that correctly. Seriously, even I as his creator am surprised by the lengths this guy sunk to in order to enrich himself.


Characters do rather run away with your imagination (even those of other creative types), if you let them, eh?

Amusingly, it was Gawain with his "Green Knight" troubles who was the more typical "perfect knight."


Gawain, bless his memory, would probably just laugh and laugh if he ever saw this; for all that he was a good and noble knight, his truest loyalties lay with his family rather than the Code of Camelot - fortunately this family included his beloved Uncle Arthur (half a year or so older than Gawain, at most), unfortunately it also included the likes of Agravain and Mordred: it was the arrest of Guivenevere by the latter two that prompted Lancelot's rescue, which led to the death of Agravain - he was missed by nobody and mourned only by Gawain - as well as Gareth, the best of the brothers, whose death triggered the blood feud which would in the end drown Camelot.

I suspect that Gawain himself would admit that, had he been a perfect knight, he would have been less indulgent with his overly-ambitious brother and rather fanatical foster-brother. But after that he'd point out that he was quite happy to leave perfection to Galahad, Percival et al - then make an off-colour joke about their sex lives (or lack thereof, Galahad being a monk and Percival being a boy scout born before his time).

His half-sister has a lot to answer for, raising such a little **** as Mordred and having the audacity to name him after him!


Well, to be fair Morgan le Fey only wished little Mordred to grow up into a warrior as puissant as his Uncle* and didn't expect that his ambitions would veer quite so close to Apocalyptic - on the other hand, as I've noted elsewhere when she wasn't being a commendably fond-hearted Big Sister to Arthur, her wits tended to wander away with the faeries (and the faerie in question was probably Maleficent), which tended to leave her less of a consistent mother-figure to her son than a rather loopy aunt.

Morgause, on the other hand, was as relentless and demanding a foster-mother to Mordred as she was a mother to her sons - whom, let us note, all elected to live a long, looooooong way away from mummy dearest when they grew old enough to fly the nest, which speak volumes about Morgause's parenting.

* I'm not actually sure what the precise relationship between them would be, but at a guess I'd say Lancelot is more likely to be Ygraine's half-brother, if one assumes that Ban of Benoic is still his father and that Ygraine is half-fey by virtue to being the daughter of a lady of the Seelie court - or a half-brother if one assumes that Ygraine played the field before she met Gorlois - in which case he might well be three-quarters fey, which explains a lot ...


Phrozen, interesting work with the double-headed Axe! :D

I might expand a bit on the Rhodesian supers as well, though not in great detail, as Libra stated he would like to comment upon the "National Super-Defense Forces" membership.


Please feel free to expound, if the inclination takes you - I'm happy to shape my own fledgeling thoughts concerning the team around your own! :D

I have also decided I will allow the final fates of any Praetorians or associated characters up to others on this forum, primarily because no ideas I've come up with for them seem really satisfying.


Aaaah, temptation. 8)

I'll see if I come up with anything.

All while hundreds of thousands of the common people are near-starving. Man, the real world needs superheroes.


Points taken (and well made) on all counts. :D

I hope that my brief article on Sweden's premier superhero team catches your interest (and that my use of your very own Law Poet meets with your approval!). :D
Founder of H.E.R.O.I.C, Complimenter-in-Chief, Co-Arch Henchman to the Grin, Servant of the Hoff!

Rule Brittania! Praise the Hoff and the Grin!

Warning!: May cause Thread Drift.
User avatar
Libra
Cosmic Entity
Cosmic Entity
 
Posts: 19411
Joined: Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:46 pm
Location: The Green and Pleasent Isle

Re: Halt Evil Doer! thread IV - Superhero Boogaloo

Postby Libra » Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:39 pm

Right, that's my admittedly-brief article on Sweden's leading superhero team done with (after the addition of Law-Poet to the permenant roster) - I welcome the contributions of anyone who wants to add any commentary or additional members. :D

Especially Grey Crusader, since it was his idea of Sweden having it's own superhero team which gave me the idea for this article in the first place (once again I owe him a debt of inspiration!). :D

Right, time to see where the next tangent leads me! :mrgreen:
Founder of H.E.R.O.I.C, Complimenter-in-Chief, Co-Arch Henchman to the Grin, Servant of the Hoff!

Rule Brittania! Praise the Hoff and the Grin!

Warning!: May cause Thread Drift.
User avatar
Libra
Cosmic Entity
Cosmic Entity
 
Posts: 19411
Joined: Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:46 pm
Location: The Green and Pleasent Isle

Re: Halt Evil Doer! thread IV - Superhero Boogaloo

Postby greycrusader » Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:46 pm

I thoroughly enjoyed the Swedish heroes, Libra. I'm pleased my own Law-Poet character proved an inspiration. Sweden, Finland, and Norway are all relatively populous and advanced nations which would certainly sport a few worthy superheroes in a comic book universe. While crime rates (especially of the violent nature) are far less than in the US (or even Western Europe), the potential for adventure and intrigue exists in Scandinavia-as attested to by the books of Mr. Stig Larsen and Smila's Sense of Snow, whose female protagonist inspired my own Valravn. Bonus Points to anyone who gets the source of Valravn's sidekick, the intrepid Inuit hunter.

All my best.
The Contingent: When all other super teams fail...
greycrusader
Hero
Hero
 
Posts: 1729
Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2004 8:30 am
Location: 15 Mechling Way Greensurg PA 15601

Re: Halt Evil Doer! thread IV - Superhero Boogaloo

Postby EnigmaticOne » Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:46 pm

Hmm... I need more suggestions for things to create. :)
Impeach the peach!

Image
EnigmaticOne
Cosmic Scion
Cosmic Scion
 
Posts: 5500
Joined: Sun May 29, 2011 2:50 pm

Re: Halt Evil Doer! thread IV - Superhero Boogaloo

Postby Phrozen » Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:04 pm

Well, the whole of Mesopotamia is pretty much open except for Sargon and Gilgamesh. There is always the reason why the Babylonian Pantheon disappeared. Also, I don't think the Minoan period has been covered. The tail end of it being this big war you may have heard of.
Phrozen
Hero
Hero
 
Posts: 1794
Joined: Sun Apr 11, 2010 4:42 pm

PreviousNext

Return to Mutants & Masterminds Settings

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest