Dc Adventures and DC reboot

[pawsplay]

I don't think

just add Motivation: Being an a$$#0l3 to most of the heroes, and you'll have the new version.

will help with the mechanical changes or getting a statblock for Voodoo or Grifter.

And who are most heroes? Any concrete example than the "cocky pilot" Hal Jordan?

Superman is such a bad communicator he ends up beating up the other heroes rather than submit to explaining himself. Wonder Woman wants to kill someone or something. Aquaman thinks he's the Submariner, come to chastise the surface world. I actually kind of like the style of the new JLA, but the dialog makes them come across as narcissistic dolts.

[Walking Dad]

But these are all examples from the same comic series (JLA), so it sounds more with a writer and less a reboot thing, or do you think the heroes have the same attitude in their solo titles? Epically Aquaman is much better in his solo.

[saint_matthew]

But these are all examples from the same comic series (JLA), so it sounds more with a writer and less a reboot thing, or do you think the heroes have the same attitude in their solo titles?

Nah it appears in the solos too... Its just really obvious in the JL because its turned up to 12. That was what disappointed me a lot in the reboot was how to many characters had the same damn emo personality.

[Cobalt]

That was what disappointed me a lot in the reboot was how to many characters had the same damn emo personality.

I get the same feeling as well. Though I have been enjoying the new Aquaman book, most of the titles are feeling like early 90s versions of comics. If everyone trades in their spandex for leather jackets and torn blue jeans, Im gonna throw a fit.

I personally didnt care much for 'edgy versions' of my favorite heroes back then, and probably have less tolerance for it now. Perhaps some characters it makes sense for (Hawkman maybe), but if we start to see Supes grow his hair long again, or Hal get lost in a bottle or booze, Im gonna start reading Archie.

I dont really think DC would go THAT far in making the characters 'more belivable' or whatever they wish to call it, but then again, they didnt consult me before the reboot either.

[saint_matthew]

I get the same feeling as well. Though I have been enjoying the new Aquaman book, most of the titles are feeling like early 90s versions of comics. If everyone trades in their spandex for leather jackets and torn blue jeans, Im gonna throw a fit.

To me a lot of it is feeling like its a parody of the early 90's versions. Between that and the books that are at issue 5 & still have no story, characters with no personalities, or just aren't being all that well executed on a technically level, i've dropped 90% of my pull list... Of course Marvels just as bad at the moment: I'm only getting one marvel book & its one that was put on hold 4 years ago (The Twelve)

I personally didnt care much for 'edgy versions' of my favorite heroes back then, and probably have less tolerance for it now.

Yeah, i think DC pulled a WotC & went "lets do something to appeal to an audience that doesn't really exist." In WotC's case it was WoW-teens, in DC's case it is jaded generation-Xers. Frankly i'm hoping that they undo the reboot really soon because my interest level in the books i am getting is dropping pretty fast.

[Lord Nikon]

I'm really enjoying the Teen Titans and would LOVE to see stats for them. Granted Robin can be taken for granted using the Robin or Nightwing already shown and Kid Flash already is out, but Wondergirl, Bunker, Skitter... all need stats.

[pawsplay]

Anyway, I think we need to see a few more fights before we can start benchmarking these guys. ... I actually didn't recognize Darkseid when I glanced through a copy of JLA, he looked so different. Once I had a second look, I could see it, but wow, that's a big visual change, and he had such a classic look. Sigh.

[Beleriphon]

I don't think

just add Motivation: Being an a$$#0l3 to most of the heroes, and you'll have the new version.

will help with the mechanical changes or getting a statblock for Voodoo or Grifter.

And who are most heroes? Any concrete example than the "cocky pilot" Hal Jordan?

Martian Manhunter seems like a bit of martian rearend, given that he's a member of StormWatch/The Authority now.

As for some of the WildStorm characters I don't know specifically which ones are owned by DC vs the creators, but anything they currently print is probably a DC property now. I also suspect that the wording of the licence didn't originally include the WildStorm characters since for a very long time (1999... in the wild of the late 90s) WildStorm wasn't linked in any way with DCs mainstream universe, compared to now where they are one and the same.

I leave it up to you dear reader to determine whether thats good or bad.

[Walking Dad]

What I disliked was that they implied MM's connection to the JLA, but then they went back and declared "being with the JLA" a term for being a public known superhero

I liked the Martian Manhunter more in his short guest starring in Green Lantern Corps and Legion Lost.

[K.G. Carlson]

I think they only put Martian Manhunter in Stormwatch to get people to buy the title; and it worked at least once!

He's the only reason I added the title to my pull list, and if he doesn't turn into more than a token DC character in a Wildstorm book in the next two issues I'm bailing on Stormwatch.

[Walking Dad]

I really like the MaMa. I loved Warren Ellis' Stormwatch...

but the new Stormwatch has to improve fast and show a bit what the characters can do but be tricked and commanded around.

[gothamcenturion]

The only thing about the reboot I've really liked so far was the fact that grifter has his own series again. He was always my fav wildstorm character back in their mid 90s peak. Loved the team7 series too.

[saint_matthew]

I think they only put Martian Manhunter in Stormwatch to get people to buy the title; and it worked at least once!

Wait until its revealed that he's not a martian at all, but a demonite. Just remember that when its revealed, that you heard it here from me first.

The only thing about the reboot I've really liked so far was the fact that grifter has his own series again. He was always my fav wildstorm character back in their mid 90s peak. Loved the team7 series too.

Nope... To me thats like all the feminist readers on particular web sites yelling about how good the new power girl costume is because it lacks for a boob window... While everyone else is saying "i don't care about the boob window, thats just a crap costume design." Sure if you love the new Grifter solo then thats okay, but please don't love its existance; because thats how DC gets away with producing crap.

[Walking Dad]

I think they only put Martian Manhunter in Stormwatch to get people to buy the title; and it worked at least once!

Wait until its revealed that he's not a martian at all, but a demonite. Just remember that when its revealed, that you heard it here from me first.
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I don't think so... the deamonites are the white martians. But their design looks similar to this Fernus persona of old - J'onn.

It isn't yet revealed if he hast still the fire weakness. But he used telepathy to become invisible in Legion Lost, not by bending the light waves, as before.