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Hero Lab Vs. Book

Postby Mr.United » Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:52 pm

I believe in making a character from scratch, thus learning the rules and knowing your way around the book versus using the calculator verison of character creation known as Hero Lab. Thus I'm making this post for issues regarding Hero Lab Vs. Book. My friends use it, so I must at least ask these questions. Here is one such thing I wish to ask.

In the book, if you buy Area Effect...let's say....Burst, it states that you gain a 30ft radius. However, in Hero Lab each rank of Area, extends the are effect. Making a pL 10 blast with area, equal to a cruise missle. The book just says 30ft (in the Area Extra), unless it states it somwhere else. Which one is right?
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Re: Hero Lab Vs. Book

Postby FuzzyBoots » Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:57 pm

Both, in a manner of speaking. Area creates a 30 foot radius whether you buy it on Blast 2 or Blast 20. Now buying Area more than once per rank of Attack, that increases the area of effect, but it also increases the cost.
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Re: Hero Lab Vs. Book

Postby Mr.United » Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:16 pm

Hereo Lab shows that for each rank, it increases the area. Not Burst x2, just burst.
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Re: Hero Lab Vs. Book

Postby Jameson » Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:33 pm

Assuming they are not incorrectly using the 2e rules set that would indicate the Hero Lab is improperly coded as Area does not increase with Effect Rank in 3e.
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Re: Hero Lab Vs. Book

Postby Mr.United » Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:36 pm

Unless they did something I didn't see, I watched as each rank would increase the range.
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Re: Hero Lab Vs. Book

Postby FuzzyBoots » Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:57 pm

I've added a mention of it to the Lone Wolf forums and I'll try to look up the code for the extra when I get home. I feel like this was brought up in one of the first releases and was fixed, but since I work exclusively in 2E, I don't exactly keep up with 3E/DCA.
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Re: Hero Lab Vs. Book

Postby Murkglow » Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:12 pm

The book is obviously right but at the same time this seems like a very basic and obvious thing that I can't imagine the people creating Hero Lab would miss (especially given how long 3e has been out it would have been brought up before now). I'm inclined to think this is human error, though I can't check it myself as I never bother with Hero Lab.
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Re: Hero Lab Vs. Book

Postby Mr.United » Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:15 pm

Neither do I, but my friend worships the thing and would love to have others either test it or side that the book is right no matter what the program says (my players at times can be very...."determined"
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Re: Hero Lab Vs. Book

Postby Murkglow » Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:17 pm

The book is "always" right when there is a conflict between it and hero lab.
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Re: Hero Lab Vs. Book

Postby The Fifth Wanderer » Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:18 pm

I've looked into it, and this looks like a false alarm to me. When you add Area to a power, there are two sets of adjustment arrows. The one on the left shows how many times Area has been applied to the power, the one on the right how many ranks it applies to.
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Re: Hero Lab Vs. Book

Postby FuzzyBoots » Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:05 pm

The Fifth Wanderer wrote:I've looked into it, and this looks like a false alarm to me. When you add Area to a power, there are two sets of adjustment arrows. The one on the left shows how many times Area has been applied to the power, the one on the right how many ranks it applies to.

Ah. I suspected that might be the case. Good to know that it is.
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Re: Hero Lab Vs. Book

Postby Mr.United » Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:29 pm

The Fifth Wanderer wrote:I've looked into it, and this looks like a false alarm to me. When you add Area to a power, there are two sets of adjustment arrows. The one on the left shows how many times Area has been applied to the power, the one on the right how many ranks it applies to.


Oh alright. Like I said I never use the thing but from what I was seeing, it seemed to accurate. Thanks for the clear up.
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