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Twilight Series characters

Postby MM » Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:17 pm

*sigh*. How do I begin? I have a psychotic 13 year old sister who has read Twilight. For those of you who have also read this book, you have my most sincere condolences. For those of you who haven't, count your blessings (is it obvious I'm not a fan of this book or it's sequels yet?).

Anyway, my sister has asked to see what their stats were in Mutants and Masterminds, and now I have come to a bit of a crossroads. On one hand, I can endure the series one more time in a vain attempt to come up with it myself, and risk my personal happiness/sanity in the attempt of fulfilling her request. ON the other hand, I can refuse and watch my little sister cry and call me a horrible human being... again risking my own happiness and sanity in the attempt (what can I say? For being completely psychotic, I think I'm partially wrapped around her finger. Heaven help me.).

So, in a somewhat desperate attempt to avoid both of these dangers to personal happiness/sanity, I'm submitting a request here. Given the incredible popularity of the series, I hope that someone has read the books and enjoyed them enough to possible endenger an attempt at the characters. I promise not to heckle the book anymore if you liked it... everyone has their own opinions and far be it for me to decry their likes... and plus you'd be doing me a great favor.

The characters I'm sure she's most interested in would be Edward Cullen, Bella Swan and Jacob Black. The rest of the family is up to you, you'd have already helped out tremendously just with those three. Thank you very much.
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Postby catsi563 » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:20 pm

can you give me a generall knowledge of them? Ive never read the series but with some basics ic an work a basic profile together.

throw me some links or have your sister post here what she thinks they cna do, toss me a wiki link or something like that to work with. Then Ill see what I can do.
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Postby Ramsey » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:21 am

I wanted to help at first, but then I discovered the book was about vampires and stuff.
So...no thanks.

I'll still make my contribution by posting some wiki-links though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twilight_(series)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Cullen_(Twilight)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bella_Swan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Black


edit: I somehow messed up the url's...
I have no idea how to fix them.
Um...copy+paste them then I guess...or click on the links that do work and follow the correct links there.
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Postby MM » Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:37 pm

Well, as I recall Bella was an average high school girl... one that seemed to believe she was incredibly clumsy/unattractive and the small horde of guys constantly flirting with her didn't seem to change that perception. Only things is that she's immune to mind-reading and apparently has an enhanced scent of smell and an obsession with Edward.

Edward Cullen is a vampire in all respects... except there is no vulnerability to holy crosses, his 'sire' is apparently a preacher of some sort. And he can go into people's houses without needing permission. And can cross water. Oh, and sunlight doesn't hurt him, it just makes him sparkle. Only thing that stays somewhat vampiric in his weaknesses is that he still needs to drink blood... though apparently animal blood works out just fine. Also him turning into a vampire has granted him mind-reading powers, which only Bella as proven to be immune to. And for some reason despite the fact that he has a nearly overpowering urge to suck her blood and therefore ignores her/avoids her at school, he feels the need to spy on her through her bedroom window. (Okay, while true, that is part of my personal dislike entering the picture. Apparently none of the teenage girls who read the book find that particular detail creepy at all. Again, you may be better off asking a fan of the book about stuff like that).

Powers wise he is super fast, super strong, super attractive, and the other typical advantages of vampires, without the shapeshifting stuff.

Jacob Black is a werewolf. Beyond that I don't really know a whole lot, since he never transformed in the first book. What I read of him made him a rather cool character (at least by contrast). He has incredible regenerative properties according to my sister, as well as being very fast and very strong. Not sure who'd win in a fight between him and Edward though.
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Re: Twilight Series characters

Postby MasterofShadoz » Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:48 pm

Powers of the SkinWalkers (they are NOT Werewolves)

Transformation – They are many different tribes. Jacob and his clan are of the Quilette tribe and as a result can change in to a over-sized wolf at will (on all fours, they stand approximately 6 feet from paw to shoulder, and 9 feet from head to tail), completely independent of the lunar cycles. In Eclipse it is revealed that Jacob is able to phase in mid-jump and phase whenever it suits him.
Regeneration - He has a powerful regenerative healing factor. This allows his body to heal at an abnormal rate, faster than any human body can. Small cuts and minor injuries heal within seconds while larger, more damaging injuries, such as broken bones and blood loss, seem to heal within hours.
Telepathy - Only works within the pack, and when in wolf form. They can speak with each other telepathically and hear each other's thoughts. Though this is more than useful while hunting and tracking, there is no privacy left in the pack because of this ability. After Jacob formed a pack of his own, he is able to communicate those within his pack and Sam, the Alpha of his previous wolf pack, if he chooses to and can select the thoughts that he wants to share.
Extreme strength, agility and speed - Has superior power both in wolf and human form. In wolf form, they are also exceptionally fast, running at a top speed of over 200 miles per hour through dense forest terrain. They can outrun vampires, as was the case with vampire Laurent however, they tend not to wander outside their forests in wolf form. In human form they seem to have an average speed of about 75 miles per hour and can lift an average of 1000 lbs. Jacob Black is slightly stronger, as he is supposed to be the strongest in the pack. In canine form, the SkinWalkers have a strength level closer to that of the vampires, which is between 5 to 8 tons.
Increased durability - SkinWalkers have a high durability rate, even in human form, as seen when Bella struck Jacob in the jaw with all of her strength, and ended up breaking her hand while Jacob, who wasn't even remotely hurt, couldn't tell that she was trying to hurt him until she started screaming.
Longevity - They cannot start aging until a solid period of time without phasing goes by. It is unknown the exact length of time, only it would be very difficult because phasing is instinctual. As long as they phase regurlarly, they can stay the same age.
Alpha voice - As the Alpha of his pack, the wolf can force his followers to obey his orders whether they refuse or not. Jacob never uses his voice to force his teammates, though he has the power and it is even stronger than Sam's voice.
Claws and teeth – wolves can easily tear the “marble hard skin” of a vampire and to kill them. In Eclipse, a vampire, Laurent, has his head decapitated in a matter of seconds.
Immunity - They are immune to the bites of vampires since the venom of a bite only affects humans.
Imprint – Once they begin phasing, a werewolf may "imprint"—a method of finding one's soulmate—on someone, and will act as whatever the imprintee needs, whether it be a protector, a lover, or an older sibling. Jacob imprints on Edward and Bella's daughter Renesmee in Breaking Dawn.
Superior senses - Both in human and wolf form, eye sight, smell and hearing are extremely sharp. In Breaking Dawn, Jacob was able to hear Quil playing with Claire at First Beach from his bedroom.
Genetics - While treating Jacob in Eclipse, Carlisle takes a blood sample and runs some tests on it. He discovers that they have 24 pairs of chromosomes, one more than a human and the same number as vampire hybrids. Each member of this clan can pass their genes on through reproduction.

I will post the information about the Vampires next! (My cousin LOVES this series, too...ah well)
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Re: Twilight Series characters

Postby ladydragonfly » Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:52 pm

Actually I think JD, had some twilight stats done up.
viewtopic.php?p=690644#p690644

There it is, its just a 2E template though.
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Re: Twilight Series characters

Postby MasterofShadoz » Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:47 am

Good find, Lady DF...

Although I think the template is a great place to start for builds (both vamp and skinwalker), it doesn't quite capture the power-levels that the Cullens (and by extension, the wolves) were exhibiting in the films, which I saw 3 weeks ago...lost a bet to the same cousin, and that was my "payment" to her.

Any-who...I would absolutely increase the speed and strength levels on the vampire template to reflect some of the prowess levels I mentioned in my previous post about the SkinWalkers. Obviously, the Cullens are very strong and fast, and I'll give some examples of each:

Twilight 1: Edward saves Bella from being smashed by an oncoming compact-van (approx 5000lbs or 2.5 Tons), and does so with one hand, while from a crouching position. To get a feeling for the strength requirement to do that, have someone lean on you while you try to support them with only one hand from a crouching position.

Breaking Dawn: The Cullens, (some weakened by hunger, some not) are trying to fight off the wolves without killing them (Carlyle says, "We will NOT be the ones to break the treaty") so they are throwing and punching these creatures through the air as if I were throwing a 15lb medicine ball, all while "holding back." Now, I am capable can lift and press 150lbs above my head, so on the M&M 2nd ed. Strength chart that puts me at a Str14. The wolves are roughly 1.5x the size of a full grown BEAR, which weighs anywhere between 1200 to 1600lbs. Let's go back to the strength chart in the 2nd edition Core Rule book and use a ratio correlation:

An athletic human, with a "Heavy Load" carrying capacity of 150lbs (STR 14) can throw 15lbs approx 25ft. So, a being that can throw 1200lbs 25ft, would have an "overhead pressing strength" by a factor of about 80x that, or a "Heavy Load" Carrying capacity of AT LEAST 6 Tons, or a Carrying STR of 45. So in looking at the build referenced on JDs thread, there needs to be an adjustment, in my humble opinion.

Let's go to speed: It's really hard to get a definitive indication on the velocity capability of either vamp or wolf based on what we see by the movies. The wolves claim that they are faster than the vampires (In New Moon, one of Jacob's pack brothers says so when Bella is with them at Sam's place). We also see Laurent getting caught from behind when they catch him and kill him, as well as the redhead (VICTORIA! That was her name) "Fleeing for the ocean" when the wolves are chasing, and catching up to her, in the forest. Since the films portray the vampires, and thus the wolves, as able to move faster than the eye can follow, my "guess-timate" is that they are moving at a rate of speed greater than 250mph, but let's see if our math can help us again:

*In Breaking Dawn, we see Edward and Bella jumping into the water from a high cliff, and then Edward submerges and immediately breaks the surface again about 25 yards ahead of Bella. So, with a swimming speed of 25yards per second, that puts him at an underwater swimming speed of @50mph (51.13mph). A humanoid without fins, swimming underwater can move at "casual speed" of 1mph without really exerting themselves. So Edward, at a casual pace (the dude wasn't swimming for his life or anything), moves 25X faster than a human. So a casual running speed for an athletic human is about 6 to 7mph (most trained runners can hold that for 1.5 to 2hrs). So given their metahuman abilities (speed, stamina, strength, etc), I think it is safe to say that all the Cullens have a "land cruising speed" of roughly 170mph, and can probably run at accelerated pace for at least 30mins at 350mph, and an all out sprint close to 600mph...we'll assume that Edward is even faster than that. Per the M&M 2nd Ed. movement rules, a being able to casually move at 150mph, can move at 300mph out of combat, and do an "all out sprint" at 600mph; that is usually attributed with a SuperSpeed, or Speed 4 or 5.

SO...all of that to say that when stating up the vampires (and SkinWalkers in wolf form), I would give a base STR score of at least 30, with two or three SuperStrength ranks thrown in for good measure, as well as a SuperSpeed 4 or 5 for the Cullens and a Speed 5 and initiative bonuses for the Wolves. I would also build a multi-form in with each SkinWalker, ie Jacob Black, because they are not as powerful in their human forms. Apparently the books say Jacob can run at a top speed of 75mph and lift/press @1000lbs in his human form. I would also acknowledge Edwards "superior speed" by building him with a Super-Speed 6 or 7.

So there it is in a nutshell...hope you enjoyed the read!
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Re: Twilight Series characters

Postby Saltcrow » Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:01 pm

I admit a guilty pleasure at reading the Twilight series. I suppose I always had a bit of a feminine side :P

They're a nightmare to stat out though them being such Mary Sue type figures.
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Re: Twilight Series characters

Postby MasterofShadoz » Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:13 pm

(LoL) Well Said SaltyCrow...

Admittedly, I didn't think the Twilight movies were COMPLETELY horrible (I gotta admit, the way the Wolves were manifested on screen was pretty cool), but I CAN ABSOLUTELY see why so many folks are up in arms about the "vampire mythology" that the series introduces. According to my cousin (we've had about 4 different conversations about it now), Stephanie Meyer gives no "origin revelation" about how the vampires came to be in her books, nor does she explain why they basically have NO disadvantages aside from having to drink blood. In my thinking, that reaaaaaaaaaaally isn't a vampire, but let's skip that for now...

If I were going to stat up these characters, without using JD's template (which, again, is a GREAT place to start), I would actually start with a base PARAGON format, myself.
Super-Strength, Super-Speed, Regeneration, Life Supports, Enhanced Senses and some limited psionics.
Throw in some feral attacks for biting and clawing (for both Vamps and Wolves), and you're well on the way.

Also, I realized I made a mistake regarding the speed levels I was describing in my previous post. Since Edward was swimming 50x faster than a human moving at a "casual" speed underwater (1mph vs Edward's 50mph), we need to bump up those numbers. We'll still assume that since Edward is "The Fastest," we'll say that the other Cullens and the Wolves move 60X faster at full speed and 30X faster than a human at "casual speed" (Edward was moving at 50X human speed at a "casual pace", so we'll assume he peaks out at 90 or 100X human speed). That would put them at a "Cruising speed" of @200mph and a sprinting speed upwards of 400mph, or Superspeed 4 according to MM 2E rules...I would still give Edward a SuperSpeed 5 or 6, since his running speed is probably somewhere above the speed of sound (770mph).
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